Sixteen Stone - A Good Album!!!

~~TheUsedToolguy~~ · 04-12-2007, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

Just went and listened to 'Glycerine' online. Can anybody explain to me why the word Glycerine is in there? Why on earth is he singing about glycerine??? It's like one of the most pointless nouns he could have chosen.

He might as well have sang "vegemite" or "I eat mice" or anything else with 3 syllables.

Was all grunge this same combination of pointless songwriting and dull instrumentation? Were Nirvana just a fluke? Or were Bush just a silly pop band who jumped on the bandwagon?

Who cares what he means? It the feeling that resonates with the listener that matters. He could sing about vegemite, and it would have been just as good, with the same emotion behind it.
Also, the guitarist for this band has such an awesome style that I can barely move.

Rainard Jalen · 04-12-2007, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

Just went and listened to 'Glycerine' online. Can anybody explain to me why the word Glycerine is in there? Why on earth is he singing about glycerine??? It's like one of the most pointless nouns he could have chosen.

He might as well have sang "vegemite" or "I eat mice" or anything else with 3 syllables.

Was all grunge this same combination of pointless songwriting and dull instrumentation? Were Nirvana just a fluke? Or were Bush just a silly pop band who jumped on the bandwagon?

In this case I'm sure there's a pretty good reason (probably memory-related) to why he's saying "glycerine", but there's no way of anybody possibly knowing that because it's unexplained - so perhaps stupidly inaccessible all the same.

I don't think Bush were by any means a "silly pop band". They jumped on the bandwaggon TO A POINT, though I'll say in earnest that I believe Gavin was well and truly honestly inspired by that music (i.e. Nirvana, Pixies etc.) and just wanted to emulate it the best he could, so to speak. Almost to the point of a tribute. The thing is, they emulated it and pillaged BETTER than EVERYBODY ELSE (possibly even Nirvana)! But that's not why they were so successful, no, it was more than that. See, it wasn't Gavin's plan or anything, but it just so happened that, him being dreamy 'n all, Bush were SUPER marketable to the entire population! He became the pin-up with the guitar! Things just worked in their favour, was all.

They were really a pretty important band, in reality. They were the most successful, biggest and probably the best post-grunge rip-off act that there was. Their work is at least deserving of some serious attention whether one likes it or otherwise. It's, at the least, educational.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-12-2007, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

Hardly. At least Rossdale could actually sing properly and the guitars and drums are able to keep in time!

Thats precisely why Nirvana were a better grunge band.

DontRunMeOver · 04-12-2007, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

In this case I'm sure there's a pretty good reason (probably memory-related) to why he's saying "glycerine", but there's no way of anybody possibly knowing that because it's unexplained - so perhaps stupidly inaccessible all the same.

I don't think Bush were by any means a "silly pop band". They jumped on the bandwaggon TO A POINT, though I'll say in earnest that I believe Gavin was well and truly honestly inspired by that music (i.e. Nirvana, Pixies etc.) and just wanted to emulate it the best he could, so to speak. Almost to the point of a tribute. The thing is, they emulated it and pillaged BETTER than EVERYBODY ELSE (possibly even Nirvana)! But that's not why they were so successful, no, it was more than that. See, it wasn't Gavin's plan or anything, but it just so happened that, him being dreamy 'n all, Bush were SUPER marketable to the entire population! He became the pin-up with the guitar! Things just worked in their favour, was all.

They were really a pretty important band, in reality. They were the most successful, biggest and probably the best post-grunge rip-off act that there was. Their work is at least deserving of some serious attention whether one likes it or otherwise. It's, at the least, educational.

I think that assessment is pretty close to perfect. I personally don't like Bush but I agree completely that they were very inspired by grunge and chose to emulate the bits that they associated with. They managed to chop the ends off it, remove a lot of the emotion and make it neater and slicker... as perhaps they were more interested in the chugging instruments and groaning vocals.

Maybe this simplification of grunge was a cynical ploy to make the music a bit poptastic, or maybe they were just emphasising the bits they liked and it happened to come out nice and populist, either way I think you're completely right that when it was coupled with Gavin Rossdale's prettiness it was bound to sell millions.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-12-2007, 11:38 AM

Best band the UK could have banished to the USA during the 90s.

Well apart from Shed 7 & Kula Shaker anyway

DontRunMeOver · 04-12-2007, 11:59 AM

Hey! Kula Shaker weren't that bad! Apart from Crispian Mills' inability to realise that however often Swastikas may pop up in Dharmic religions, asian temples aren't the main thing that Brits would connect it with...

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