Guns N' Roses (Yes and Chinese Democracy, so don't make other threads on it.) (lyrics, rock)

[gongadin]

Originally Posted by adidasss

i think draven's whooping your asses people...it's useless to disagree with his logic, i don't think nirvana was a stadium ( football stadium) rock band like gnr were, nirvana was more underground, alternative, gnr was rock for the masses...i know who was bigger then all of them though....RICKY MARTIN AND ENRIQUE IGLESIAS!!!GO RICKY GO ENRIQUE....

I really do hope that you're being sarcastic, cause they're a pair of untalented tossers, who choose a very bad field of music.

[dog]

Originally Posted by gongadin

G and R

hehe.

[Tommyrocker]

*Can taste the abundance of ignorance and arrogance*

[Sneer]

by the way draven, U2 were the biggest selling band of the late 80s/early 90s, the joshua tree alone sold 20 million copies in the US, while the likes of garth brookes, REM, led zeppelin, pink floyd, billy joel, elvis pressley, the beatles, the eagles, bruce springsteen and the rolling stones have sold far more records in the US.

[adidasss]

Originally Posted by gongadin

I really do hope that you're being sarcastic, cause they're a pair of untalented tossers, who choose a very bad field of music.

o man...the mere fact that you had to ask is ...idaknow ..but it's says something..

[Trauma]

Originally Posted by draven

Wow you guys don't have to cry over this just because I keep proving my point.

I am sorry but nirvana didnt change the sound of music by themselves, they had help by bands like pearl jam, soundgarden and AIC like I said before. If nirvana really did it on their own why did their first album flop then? If it was really all nirvana who changed the face of music (for the worse might I add) then why didn't bleach take off when it was first released?

I have proven time and time again how gnr was so much bigger than nirvana and you cry babies have given me nothing.

Here is the nail in the coffin for you teenage angst poor misinformed childen.

In 1992 guns n roses did a PPV for the whole world just so the people that could never get a ticket to their sold out shows could see them live. If I am not mistaken they were the first rock band in history to do a PPV. If gnr were not as big as you guys claim then they would never have been able to pull that off.

Nirvana NEVER did they yet you seem to think nirvana was bigger.

Yeah lol, you say this right after I have stated that all you have is statistics... fact is Nirvana started out as an underground band and recorded Bleach for $606...Idk is this saying that they didn't want fame and fortune?!?!? Omg can you fathom that draven, can you!?!
Or are you just going to throw in another statistic like how the exact length of Axl's hair made him better qualified than Kurt Cobain?

[draven]

Originally Posted by LedZepStu

by the way draven, U2 were the biggest selling band of the late 80s/early 90s, the joshua tree alone sold 20 million copies in the US, while the likes of garth brookes, REM, led zeppelin, pink floyd, billy joel, elvis pressley, the beatles, the eagles, bruce springsteen and the rolling stones have sold far more records in the US.

Again people making up numbers, you really do need to get your facts straight. The Joshua tree sold 10m in the usa. You need to stop pulling numbers out of your a$$ when you have no clue what you are talking about.

Guns n roses were the biggest band in the world from 87/88-93, you cannot even dispute that, I have already proven it but you still deny it, its becoming comical. As for those bands selling more albums than gnr, that is true but like I stated before gnr only have 3 real studio albums and one EP yet vs all those bands that have atleast 10 albums each, yet they are right up there as one of the best selling bands ever.

Like I also said, gnr were bigger than all of those bands (Elvis doesnt count because he is not a band).

The funny thing is you still have not even given once ounce of proof that nirvana was bigger than guns n roses in the 90s which is what this debate is really about, not if gnr were the biggest band since the beatles, since I changed what I said and restated it as they were one of the biggest bands since the beatles.

So stop making up numbers and tell me how nirvana was bigger than gnr in the 90s?

[Trauma]

Yep, I said you were going to throw out a statistic and you did, you did.....

[Sneer]

Originally Posted by draven

Again people making up numbers, you really do need to get your facts straight. The Joshua tree sold 10m in the usa. You need to stop pulling numbers out of your a$$ when you have no clue what you are talking about.

Guns n roses were the biggest band in the world from 87/88-93, you cannot even dispute that, I have already proven it but you still deny it, its becoming comical. As for those bands selling more albums than gnr, that is true but like I stated before gnr only have 3 real studio albums and one EP yet vs all those bands that have atleast 10 albums each, yet they are right up there as one of the best selling bands ever.

Like I also said, gnr were bigger than all of those bands (Elvis doesnt count because he is not a band).

The funny thing is you still have not even given once ounce of proof that nirvana was bigger than guns n roses in the 90s which is what this debate is really about, not if gnr were the biggest band since the beatles, since I changed what I said and restated it as they were one of the biggest bands since the beatles.

So stop making up numbers and tell me how nirvana was bigger than gnr in the 90s?

and why should we believe everything you say is legitimate? why is it anything everyone says to you in opposition is false or inaccurate? are you that conceited to think everything said as an argument to your stupid statements is wrong? because it isnt. im done with you, considering i dont care about either GnR or your views. you've made your stupid point, why dont you just do us a favour and shut up now, if we wanted to listen to the same thing over and over again we'd put on a my chemical romance album.

[draven]

Originally Posted by Snickers

Yeah lol, you say this right after I have stated that all you have is statistics... fact is Nirvana started out as an underground band and recorded Bleach for $606...Idk is this saying that they didn't want fame and fortune?!?!? Omg can you fathom that draven, can you!?!
Or are you just going to throw in another statistic like how the exact length of Axl's hair made him better qualified than Kurt Cobain?

All I have is stats to back up my claim that gnr was the biggest band from 87-93? Gee isn’t that what you are supposed to do? I backed up my statement yet you say it’s not good enough, when all you have is you like nirvana more than gnr so nirvana was bigger in the 90s. That does not cut it. I am getting tired of kicking your a$$es when it comes to this. You really have no leg to stand on. And it does not matter how much bleach cost, my point is very valid. Nirvana did not put grunge/alternative music into the mainstream alone, they had a bunch of other bands that came out at the same time that helped them. Are you going to t ry and deny that too?

And what made Axl more talented than Cobain is easy. Song writing. Cobain never wrote a song as good as WTTJ,SCOM, PC, Nov rain, estranged or Civil war.

OH yeah btw, here is more one stat for you. You do know that SCOM holds the record for most consecutive weeks at #1 on dial mtv.