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Old 04-02-2009, 06:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Edit: Thanks for the clarification, Alfred.
No problem, but don't get me wrong... there are some legitimately good metalcore bands out there that do a lot more than just the same Iron Maiden guitars/breakdowns combo such as Converge, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Genghis Tron (I'd call them metalcore), and even Johnny Truant I like. They may use breakdowns a wee bit, but they at least recognize that they're not a metal band, they're a metalcore band, so they don't use a bunch of other techniques to sound more "br00tal".
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:11 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'll take Japanese C0ck R0ck for the win Alex:
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Old 04-02-2009, 12:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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No problem, but don't get me wrong... there are some legitimately good metalcore bands out there that do a lot more than just the same Iron Maiden guitars/breakdowns combo such as Converge, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Genghis Tron (I'd call them metalcore), and even Johnny Truant I like. They may use breakdowns a wee bit, but they at least recognize that they're not a metal band, they're a metalcore band, so they don't use a bunch of other techniques to sound more "br00tal".
I see. I feel weird about 'genres' and musical labels. I, sometimes, feel that takes away from the music itself, or limits the musician to what kind of music they make. I understand the conflicts that will come with not being specific, but at times, it can seem like yet another class system. I've tried to get into Genghis Tron, but the album (Cloak of Love) I picked up was waaay to techno for my liking. Perhaps I need to give it another whirl. It took me awhile to reallly get into DEP, but my feeble little girl mind finally gets it.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I see. I feel weird about 'genres' and musical labels. I, sometimes, feel that takes away from the music itself, or limits the musician to what kind of music they make. I understand the conflicts that will come with not being specific, but at times, it can seem like yet another class system. I've tried to get into Genghis Tron, but the album (Cloak of Love) I picked up was waaay to techno for my liking. Perhaps I need to give it another whirl. It took me awhile to reallly get into DEP, but my feeble little girl mind finally gets it.
I wrote an essay on something very similar to that. Basically it was whether or not music was becoming more segregated as we continue to split genres in half. Sadly I forgot to back it up before I reformatted my laptop and cannot find it anywhere on any of my old online journals.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I've tried to get into Genghis Tron, but the album (Cloak of Love) I picked up was waaay to techno for my liking. Perhaps I need to give it another whirl. It took me awhile to reallly get into DEP, but my feeble little girl mind finally gets it.
Well, if you don't like techno in Genghis Tron, they're probably not for you. The thing about Genghis Tron is that you have to like them for what they are. They're really hard to pin down, so people usually lump them in the (humorous sounding) "cybergrind" genre or the "mathcore" genre, and maybe those are more accurate.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Genre labels are just plain annoying... just tune out to the labelling and enjoy the music you hear and not give a c rap what " genre" it is or what part of its name has "core" stitched to the end of it...
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Old 04-04-2009, 07:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I've yet to hear any Japanese bands that come close to being equal to or better than American or British bands (big names, anyway)

But I'm open, show me something and I might be inclined to change my mind
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:08 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
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idk the artist but Zetsubou Billy is a freaking awesome Japanese metalcore song
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:43 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Well, been there done that... not to say I'd never again....
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