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Old 02-02-2013, 12:41 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Those three bands you listed are metalcore bands, dude.
Nu hardcore Metalcore Rock"core" same thing
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:27 AM   #92 (permalink)
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I like Nu Metal but I don't like "evil" and I've never heard any Nu Metal band trying to sound evil. Maybe you can be more specific? In which song do white guys try to sound evil by rapping? And why mention they're white? There are black guys in Nu Metal too.

Forward To Death - KoRn, Limp Bizkit, Deftones, Linkin Park, Saliva, Papa Roach, Disturbed.

Each of these bands has a completely unique and recognizable sound. Admittedly, I don't know much about guitars but I know for sure that those bands guitars don't sound the same. Deftones's Adrenaline f.e. is one of my favorite albums and it has an unique guitar sound that has never been used outside that album. Name me ONE song outside Adrenaline in which the guitar sounds like that.
Yeah I realize I'm generalizing/stereotyping but that's the vibe I get from nu metal. Also just watch a Korn video clip, says it all really.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:39 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Not enough rapping for hip-hop fans and too much of hip-hop rhythm for rock/metal fans it is only appreciated by few open minded people intelligent enough to comprehend its greatness and value it.
It's not about the presence of rapping, it's that so much of the rapping in nu metal is no better than ICP's rapping.
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Hip Hop and Metal kind of remind me of Romeo and Juliet. They're perfect together, yet their families can't stand each other because of most stupid, senseless reasons. Difference is, Nu Metal lives forever.
What on earth are you talking about? This isn't 1990. There is plenty of crossover these days.
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Good name? Metal got a good name? Most people associate metal with low IQ, bad hygiene, neanderthal behavior and thinking, violence towards women, long feminine hair and leather pants, bad physical condition and alcohol.
Low IQ? Neanderthal behavior and thinking? You mean like people who make ignorant, sweeping generalizations about entire groups of people?

And tell the Vikings that long hair is feminine.
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The Batlord AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH Vikings? You mean the low IQ'd, savage, dirty, thieving neanderthal women rapers ? Boohoo I'm so scared .

Well most casual people associate metal with leather, satan, darkness, skeletons and that kind of stuff which is annoying and offending. When people ask me what I listen to and I say metal I mostly get negative reactions, but not negative as "OMG YOU'RE STUPID AND YOU STINK" but negative in the way that they look at me as a freak but are too polite to say anything.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:55 AM   #95 (permalink)
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The Batlord AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH Vikings? You mean the low IQ'd, savage, dirty, thieving neanderthal women rapers ? Boohoo I'm so scared .
More ignorant, sweeping generalizations? You know, if Vikings were black then this would be about to turn into an entirely different conversation.

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Well most casual people associate metal with leather, satan, darkness, skeletons and that kind of stuff which is annoying and offending. When people ask me what I listen to and I say metal I mostly get negative reactions, but not negative as "OMG YOU'RE STUPID AND YOU STINK" but negative in the way that they look at me as a freak but are too polite to say anything.
Well, most "casual people" are idiots, so why should I care what they think? Besides, Satan kicks ass. Backwards baseball caps do not.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:28 AM   #96 (permalink)
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Skeletons are annoying? Really? I've always found mine to be pretty supportive.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:04 PM   #97 (permalink)
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I generalized, so what? Those are the characteristics vikings are known for. Doesn't have to mean that each and every one of them was like that, but MOST were.

Most people I know don't know music further than mainstream pop and our folk music but so what? The smartest girl in our class has an IQ of 142 by European standards. Is she an idiot just because she listens to mainstream pop?

Whiskey - I find these KoRn songs pretty catchy: "Falling away from me", "Let the guilt go", "Right now", "Predictable", "Shoots and Ladders". I can list more if you want me to.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:34 PM   #98 (permalink)
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But what I don't understand is how can somebody who listens to a bunch of long haired dudes just mindlessly bashing the guitar and growling dare to act condescending towards Nu Metal.
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Hehe don't get me wrong I'm not bothered by long hair, its just that most people that play the kind of music I described are either long haired(in most cases) or bald. They all try to copy each other to stay tr00 or whatever and they usually all end up looking/sounding too similar to each other.
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Why would it not be a legitimate reason to not like a band? If somebody likes guitar solos so much that he can't listen a song without a guitar solo its a completely legitimate reason not to like a band that uses max 1 guitar solo per album if any.
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Forward To Death - KoRn, Limp Bizkit, Deftones, Linkin Park, Saliva, Papa Roach, Disturbed.

Each of these bands has a completely unique and recognizable sound. .
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This IMO is the biggest problem with Nu "Metal". It is often more similar to hard rock than metal, a bit too heavy/aggressive for hard rock but too melodic and different from metal. Maybe calling it Nu Rock would be better... maybe.
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Good name? Metal got a good name? Most people associate metal with low IQ, bad hygiene, neanderthal behavior and thinking, violence towards women, long feminine hair and leather pants, bad physical condition and alcohol.
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The Batlord AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH Vikings? You mean the low IQ'd, savage, dirty, thieving neanderthal women rapers ? Boohoo I'm so scared .
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Well most casual people associate metal with leather, satan, darkness, skeletons and that kind of stuff which is annoying and offending. When people ask me what I listen to and I say metal I mostly get negative reactions, but not negative as "OMG YOU'RE STUPID AND YOU STINK" but negative in the way that they look at me as a freak but are too polite to say anything.
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I generalized, so what? Those are the characteristics vikings are known for. Doesn't have to mean that each and every one of them was like that, but MOST were.
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Most people I know don't know music further than mainstream pop and our folk music but so what? The smartest girl in our class has an IQ of 142 by European standards. Is she an idiot just because she listens to mainstream pop?
Post after post of absolute guff! One thing's for certain, your IQ is a long way below 142.

Hopefully this thread won't reach 142 posts either.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:41 PM   #99 (permalink)
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Post after post of absolute guff! One thing's for certain, your IQ is a long way below 142.

Hopefully this thread won't reach 142 posts either.
You mean to say is that you aren't having fun?


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Skeletons are annoying? Really? I've always found mine to be pretty supportive.


How dare you make me laugh so loud that I fell to the floor and broke my skeleton! MyName is right, skeletons are offensive, the way they let you break your back. We need a "smile" that includes an old man with a walker, 'cause, dude, that's the way I feel now...
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I think it's weird to throw black metal in with those, but to answer your question, nu-metal is a synthesis that seems driven largely by adolescent and adolescent-acting bands, combining two genres of music that are 1. angsty and 2. easily commercial. The resulting music is usually a lot more proud of itself than it really deserves to be (lower technical skill than a lot of other metal genres, less lyrical depth and compositional profundity, etc. etc.) and unfortunately, due perhaps to the strong backlash against its founders, or perhaps to the transience of its demographic target, there's been very little exploration of it in the underground by more talented rappers and metal musicians.
This.

Any response after this post is basically just meaningless fluff.
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