Why such controversy on Nu Metal?

The Batlord · 08-21-2014, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg

uhhh u know Hardcore came out in like 2003 a little bit after Nu metal .....

unless your talking about bands like

Cro mags
bad brains
GG allen
etc etc etc

that came out around uhh 1988-1993 and most of those bands were from the East coast NY area and flordia milleesss away from califorina and KORN

and besides korn members were big into the hole LA scene when they were teens givin the close proximnty to them

so Hardcore of the early 90's had no effect on nu metal

Dylstew · 08-21-2014, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

His comment confused the **** out of me.
Hardcore Punk was an 80's thing, what the hell is he talking about?

Necro · 08-21-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Norg

uhhh u know Hardcore came out in like 2003 a little bit after Nu metal .....

unless your talking about bands like

Cro mags
bad brains
GG allen
etc etc etc

that came out around uhh 1988-1993 and most of those bands were from the East coast NY area and flordia milleesss away from califorina and KORN

and besides korn members were big into the hole LA scene when they were teens givin the close proximnty to them

so Hardcore of the early 90's had no effect on nu metal

Even though the genre broke through around 2003, there were heavy hardcore bands all along since 90s, and even though they didnt influence nu-metal much, in retrospect, you could argue nu-metal fits into that sound much better than in anything else.

The Batlord · 08-21-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew

His comment confused the **** out of me.
Hardcore Punk was an 80's thing, what the hell is he talking about?

Naw, man. Black Flag is a myth.

Black Francis · 08-21-2014, 02:40 PM

im no nu metal historian but didn't nu metal start around the mid 90's?
i remember listening to 'life is peachy' by Korn around 96 or 97

Necro · 08-21-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

im no nu metal historian but didn't nu metal start around the mid 90's?
i remember listening to 'life is peachy' by Korn around 96 or 97

If youre referring to my post, i was talking about hardcore/metalcore breaking through in 2003, not nu-metal.

Dylstew · 08-22-2014, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Necro

Even though the genre broke through around 2003, there were heavy hardcore bands all along since 90s, and even though they didnt influence nu-metal much, in retrospect, you could argue nu-metal fits into that sound much better than in anything else.

''Heavy hardcore bands all along in the nineties'' What?
Hardcore Punk is primarily an 80's thing dude.
Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, MDC, Discharge, that Dead Kennedys EP, Verbal Abuse, The F.U's, Negative Approach, Negative FX, Poison Idea, Gang Green, Government Issue, D.R.I, Battillion of Saints, D.O.A, Agnostic Front, etc.

It's not a nineties thing at all.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Naw, man. Black Flag is a myth.

Yeah, Black Flag Didn't exist, only Off and Flag exist, and those were totally new and original ideas. hmm hmm, I should know, I'm an expert.

Necro · 08-22-2014, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dylstew

''Heavy hardcore bands all along in the nineties'' What?
Hardcore Punk is primarily an 80's thing dude.
Minor Threat, Bad Brains, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, MDC, Discharge, that Dead Kennedys EP, Verbal Abuse, The F.U's, Negative Approach, Negative FX, Poison Idea, Gang Green, Government Issue, D.R.I, Battillion of Saints, D.O.A, Agnostic Front, etc.

It's not a nineties thing at all.

Yeah, Black Flag Didn't exist, only Off and Flag exist, and those were totally new and original ideas. hmm hmm, I should know, I'm an expert.

Im talking stuff like Hatebreed, Biohazard, Converge, Luti-Kriss, etc.

Dylstew · 08-22-2014, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Necro

Im talking stuff like Hatebreed, Biohazard, Converge, Luti-Kriss, etc.

Those are not even straight up Hardcore Punk bands.
Come on man, Hardcore Punk started in the 80's, and that was it's most important time period.
Modern hardcore has a very different sound. I'm not saying it's not hardcore, but hardcore punk is without a doubt an 80's thing.

''uhhh u know Hardcore came out in like 2003 a little bit after Nu metal .....

unless your talking about bands like Cro mags bad brains ''

Unless? Bad brains is one of the original hardcore punk bands? Why the unless?
And cro-mags is crossover thrash, hardcore punk mixed with thrash metal.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 08-22-2014, 07:13 AM

Not to derail this, because I've been reading this back and forth between two, but...

This is the nu-metal I listened to back in the 2000's, early 2000's I mean. My favorite nu-metal band from that period, some of the best writing as far as nu-metal goes. From the riffs, bass, drumming, singing. It's great stuff. Take a listen. This is the **** I think should have gotten the attention over Linkin Park and their debut album Hybrid Theory. Simon Says was more competent as far as song writing goes. Strong stuff. For the people that listened to Simon Says. They were known for their big choruses. But everything about them was great in my opinion. Listen to that chorus in Dyslexic Smile. Not your typical nu-metal lyrics. I never thought this band wrote in the same way as their peers did. Smarter.

And take a guess who their drummer was? Pretty well respected drummer.

Maybe you can dig'em, or maybe not.

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CoNtrivedNiHilism Because I Am, I Can! Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,128	Not to derail this, because I've been reading this back and forth between two, but... This is the nu-metal I listened to back in the 2000's, early 2000's I mean. My favorite nu-metal band from that period, some of the best writing as far as nu-metal goes. From the riffs, bass, drumming, singing. It's great stuff. Take a listen. This is the **** I think should have gotten the attention over Linkin Park and their debut album Hybrid Theory. Simon Says was more competent as far as song writing goes. Strong stuff. For the people that listened to Simon Says. They were known for their big choruses. But everything about them was great in my opinion. Listen to that chorus in Dyslexic Smile. Not your typical nu-metal lyrics. I never thought this band wrote in the same way as their peers did. Smarter. And take a guess who their drummer was? Pretty well respected drummer. Maybe you can dig'em, or maybe not. Last edited by CoNtrivedNiHilism; 08-22-2014 at 07:19 AM.