The Batlord's Thread of Metalcore that Doesn't Suck but In Fact ****ing Rules

[Mondo Bungle]

[Mondo Bungle]

here's some Knut though, the MA are calling them technical sludge metal. Guaranteed to enjoy if you like Keelhaul



This was the first metalcore song that I thought was awesome, and drew me in



Where it's at every moment of every day

[Dylstew]

Mondo, there's a few artists you posted which you don't have plays on over at LastFM.

Are you telling me you've purposefully listened to even more artists than your LastFM claims?

edit: I'm really enjoying Left for Dead

[The Batlord]

I've heard (very passingly, so take that for what it is from a n00b) that hardcore is kind of stale right now, but from the last few bands I've listened to (Twitching Tongues and Homewrecker) who've had their first releases in or just short of this decade then I'm calling bull****. I already declared earlier that metalcore might have been the most exciting metal genre of of the mid-late nineties (death metal was stale by then, but black metal surely challenges that claim), but I'm now confident that, again, perhaps beside black metal again, (non-Killswitch Engage) metalcore is the current throne holder of "normal" metal's crown.

Death metal's old school revivalism and the continued quality of certain brutal DM bands maintains its relevance through sheer quality, if not innovation---Severe Torture is pretty wizard brutal DM of the skull-shattering-est kind, and if you haven't already checked them out, Obliteration continues to pick up where Obituary and Autopsy left off with ever-improving results.

Old thrash metal bands, along with a select few non-parody bands, sometimes show promise that the genre has a legitimate position in the middle ground between extreme and non-extreme metal when it embraces modern levels of sonic beef and perhaps some tasteful post-thrash influences---Exodus, Onslaught, and Overkill have been showing for years that stripped-down, blue collar metal can exist today without just being anachronisms; and Evil, Toxic Holocaust, and Diamond Plate prove that newer can plunder the eighties without being merely jokes.

Black metal, doom, and grindcore's futures seem to be in ever greater and weirder experimentation, so they're immune from this rant (though I've certainly heard the odd metalcore band with more than their share of experimentalism).

Metalcore, however often puts even the most brutal death metal to shame, and is an even tighter, more modernly relevant alternative to thrash. As far as pure headbanging music goes, I think the working man's metalheads are missing the boat on what's going on with metalcore these days. Get over your elitism and get with it.

As you can see, I've become somewhat of a fanboy in only a few short days. End rant.

[The Batlord]

Currently listening to Twitching Tongues' first album, from 2012. In a way, they kind of remind me of Acid Bath. They're both classified by simple genre tags (metalcore and sludge respectively), but they have a diversity and individuality that defies such reductive and restrictive labels.

TT would probably get labeled melodic metalcore if that genre tag hadn't already been appropriated by other bands, though these guys have none of the Gothenburg influences of Killswitch or Trivium (though they do throw in some similar melodic choruses at times). I guess just like Homewrecker are what deathcore should sound like, Twitching Tongues are what melodic metalcore should be.

They've got the heavy crunch, occasional punk fury, and sweet breakdowns of metalcore, but some serious grooves that make them sound quasi-stone metal at times. The vocals are worlds away from metalcore though, and sound more like if a punk band with an actual singer was actually singing rather than just going along with the simple beat of the song. He goes into some hardcore roars at times, but in general he sticks with singing. I guess some people might find his voice a bit too nasally, but otherwise he's quality.

With only eight songs, I figured this would be an EP, punk being what it is, but with the relatively long son lengths this album clocks in at least close to a half hour. They fit some serious songwriting, changing dynamics, and diverse influences into those thirty minutes, and I think they're a pretty righteous band. Some seriously infectious ear worms on this album too.

Spoiler for Tasty:

[Dylstew]

I really enjoyed the first Dillinger Escape Plan album, Calculating Infinity.

[Mondo Bungle]

Originally Posted by Dylstew

Mondo, there's a few artists you posted which you don't have plays on over at LastFM.

Are you telling me you've purposefully listened to even more artists than your LastFM claims?

edit: I'm really enjoying Left for Dead

I guess

I listen to CDs and stuff

[Mondo Bungle]

I'm still saying Undying are one of the best. Sure, they wear their Gothenburg influence on their sleeve, but like, you're a homo.

Another one of my firsts



Of course everyone needs this album

[Engine]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Right now, while I'll definitely do something more in depth on them soon, I just have to post something by Arkangel. Their Dead Man Walking album might just have just become my go-to album for straight-up brutality. I honestly can't think of another album as extreme as this. The simple, straightforward malevolence, and unnatural heaviness is just awe-inspiring. I challenge anyone, ANYONE to find me something more brutal. It defies words.

I can't hear what you're hearing. I'm not gonna trash the band but it sounds kind of average to me. Average for metalcore which is to say, very heavy music made by kids who grew up on heavy music. Arkangel sounds okay, definitely pissed off. But all of these kids sound really angry like that. I never fully got what makes music brutal though. I dunno, parents just don't understand I guess.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Botch
Mathcore/Metalcore/Post-Hardcore
1993--2002

one of my favorite bands of all! Their American Nervosa album hits me the hardest but everything they did is solid. Definitely Trve Metalcore in the sense that it came before all the terrible stuff.

Another one of my very favorite bands that fits in with the subjonra is Buried Inside who had kind of a sludgy post-metal feel. But they were definitely metalcore though I mean look at a picture of them.


If, in the late 90s-mid 00s, you had long hair parted on one side, swept across your forehead and tucked behind one ear then your metal band is probably metalcore. If you wore plaid shirts and skinny jeans it definitely is. But their Chronoclast album is definitely good here's a song





I don't know if they really qualify but to me this band sounds like metalcore with a southern groove thing happening: Byzantine. I've only heard this one album but I dig it.

[Dylstew]

Do any of you guys know the Flaming Tsunamis?
They make a pretty nice combination of metalcore and ska and a few other genres(although usually not at the same time, aside form the horns)

This song for example has a Jazz part in it: