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Old 02-06-2016, 06:25 PM   #121 (permalink)
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You've provided nothing yourself mate. I can link to terror statistics which would literally nuke you into oblivion, but I'm waiting. Benefit of the doubt etc.
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Old 02-06-2016, 06:27 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Not that it matters. Goofle's original statement made no real point, nothing he's since said has turned it into one.

And besides which, the entire affair started because I posted something that attempted to illustrate how people who are sexist can truly believe they aren't - Because the nature of sexism, or any discrimination, is that those most involved in it are very rarely aware of what they're doing, and just consider it normal. As a result, people should think about whether they are contributing to it - because I am 100% certain that absolutely everyone is actively involved in some sort of discrimination without being aware of it.

Edit: And Goofle, honestly, you've just talked your way around making any concrete statement for about 5 posts, while repeatedly insisting that a point you've yet to make is correct.

All I see when I read your posts recently is you pushing the "Defend the white man, for he is oppressed by all this newfangled social justice!" agenda. Between this, defending Roosh V, the MRA thread, etc.

I've no interest in getting into a long and protracted circular debate with you, but your recent contributions to this forum do not exactly make you look good, and reacting aggressively doesn't help.
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Old 02-06-2016, 06:28 PM   #123 (permalink)
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So do you have anything that's about metal or are you just going to compare it to bad race relations?

@goof Well ISIS has been linked to around 5000 deaths, then there's the much more prolific Boko Haram...**** I guess you're right.
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Old 02-06-2016, 06:32 PM   #124 (permalink)
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I answered your individual comments GB, which were also essentially baseless. So let's not go accusing people of having nothing to say.
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Old 02-06-2016, 06:45 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Not that it matters. Goofle's original statement made no real point, nothing he's since said has turned it into one.

And besides which, the entire affair started because I posted something that attempted to illustrate how people who are sexist can truly believe they aren't - Because the nature of sexism, or any discrimination, is that those most involved in it are very rarely aware of what they're doing, and just consider it normal. As a result, people should think about whether they are contributing to it - because I am 100% certain that absolutely everyone is actively involved in some sort of discrimination without being aware of it.

Edit: And Goofle, honestly, you've just talked your way around making any concrete statement for about 5 posts, while repeatedly insisting that a point you've yet to make is correct.

All I see when I read your posts recently is you pushing the "Defend the white man, for he is oppressed by all this newfangled social justice!" agenda. Between this, defending Roosh V, the MRA thread, etc.

I've no interest in getting into a long and protracted circular debate with you, but your recent contributions to this forum do not exactly make you look good, and reacting aggressively doesn't help.
I think you are anti-easy-going people. Trying to fault them as some kind of monsters based on assumption that all people are terrible meanies, and the easy-going people are totally unaware of they are making people's lives miserable.
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Old 02-06-2016, 08:09 PM   #126 (permalink)
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And besides which, the entire affair started because I posted something that attempted to illustrate how people who are sexist can truly believe they aren't - Because the nature of sexism, or any discrimination, is that those most involved in it are very rarely aware of what they're doing, and just consider it normal. As a result, people should think about whether they are contributing to it - because I am 100% certain that absolutely everyone is actively involved in some sort of discrimination without being aware of it.
I think our discussion is basically over, since evolutionary psychology is hard to prove at best, and a pseudo-science at worse, but I'd just like to point out that I'm in no way disagreeing with this basic point.
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Old 02-06-2016, 09:47 PM   #127 (permalink)
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If this is going to turn in to degrading the opinions of others on the topic of sexism or pointing out if someone doesn't have anything of merit to contribute, then maybe none of us should discuss it because when things go that route, it just makes talking about anything pointless.

GB I think you have some valid points but going at Goofle that way made you look no better.

I'm no mod but let's just stop that sort of thing now.
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:36 PM   #128 (permalink)
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Old 02-07-2016, 04:10 AM   #129 (permalink)
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If this is going to turn in to degrading the opinions of others on the topic of sexism or pointing out if someone doesn't have anything of merit to contribute, then maybe none of us should discuss it because when things go that route, it just makes talking about anything pointless.

GB I think you have some valid points but going at Goofle that way made you look no better.

I'm no mod but let's just stop that sort of thing now.
I don't mind. We are free to say whatever we want so long as we don't start abusing each other. I was pretty drunk yesterday and my posts were a bit silly (though I agree with the point I meant to make). The discussion about the KKK shouldn't have lasted much longer than my initial comment but it is what it is, people can respond to each other.

And just for the record GB, I'm not pushing a particular agenda. It's more about pointing out some of the hypocrisy that exists in society in regards to males. And is usually in response to other people's agenda.

Also, I agree with you about pretty much everyone being involved in some kind of discrimination, however subtle. Me highlighting discrimination that negatively effects men shouldn't be viewed any differently than those who point out discrimination against women.
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:18 PM   #130 (permalink)
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To an extent, yes. However, not any more than hip-hop. Still, it's definitely gotten better for women in hard rock than it was in the 80's without question. Hopefully we'll continue to see more progress. There's plenty of room ()!
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