Is Judas Priest the most consistent band of all time?

**Frownland** · 11-17-2017, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul

You know, I've looked at the discussion with great interest and...

WTF DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH JUDAS PRIEST?

MicShazam is afraid of becoming jaded or something.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-17-2017, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

MicShazam is afraid of becoming jaded or something.

Hey, I didn't start it!

Trollheart · 11-17-2017, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Maajo

Probably not the most consistent band of all time, or at least that'll be pretty hard to put to the test. I had my day of JP worship - British Steel, Point Of Entry and Screaming For Vengeance are some of my all-time favorites. As I've grown older, a lot of their other releases have grown a little bit "meh" on me, but they tend to release solid albums especially with Halford on vocals. Tool in my opinion has released some really great stuff, but they only have four full length albums. Megadeth has a lot of good stuff, Motorhead, Sabbath, Zeppelin, Opeth, Death. I'm even missing one or two!

That's four too many.

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Originally Posted by SoundboardTerrorSquad

You sound like me except you have that opinon about Megadeth and i have mine about Metallica post Black album

Thats a great comeback. Id say they havnt dropped any out of the ordinary trash albums EVER

Incorrect: what about Never Say Die? I find that pretty awful. And then there's (ugh) Born Again ...

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Whoa.

I just called the funeral home folks to change the inscription on my urn.

From We wind on down the road, our shadows taller than our souls?

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Maybe it's a bit sentimental, but I just think that... when you can only see how **** everything is, you've sort of given up on everything, and I don't want to go there.

I'm with you MicShaz. World's ****ed up but I'm not going to give in to the general despair and nihilism expressed by some, esp Batty. I'm happy to enjoy the world on my own terms, for what I can get out of it, and what little I can give to it. That may be, and probably is, a simple-minded philosophy, but it's how I live my life, and how I want to. I'd rather be a somewhat blind optimist that a wide-awake and constant pessimist.

**Frownland** · 11-17-2017, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I'm with you MicShaz. World's ****ed up but I'm not going to give in to the general despair and nihilism expressed by some, esp Batty. I'm happy to enjoy the world on my own terms, for what I can get out of it, and what little I can give to it. That may be, and probably is, a simple-minded philosophy, but it's how I live my life, and how I want to. I'd rather be a somewhat blind optimist that a wide-awake and constant pessimist.

I don't think that recognizing the poor state of the world is mutually exclusive to being able to appreciate what's good about it. In fact, I would say that recognizing the bad helps me appreciate the good even more. At the very least we can look at the negative **** and try to figure out how to improve it.

Trollheart · 11-17-2017, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I don't think that recognizing the poor state of the world is mutually exclusive to being able to appreciate what's good about it. In fact, I would say that recognizing the bad helps me appreciate the good even more. At the very least we can look at the negative **** and try to figure out how to improve it.

No I fully agree. It would be really stupid to lock yourself in a box and pretend the world outside don't exist. That's not what I'm saying. I recognise there are serious problems in the world, and I do get upset about them, and would do what I can to help, even if all I can do is contribute to charities or sign stupid online petitions. What I mean is I would prefer not to take a Batty approach, viz, the world is ****ed up so don't take any enjoyment from it. He basically appears (though I guess he's trolling/drunk/both) to be trying to explain to MicShaz why he shouldn't enjoy the world, and I don't subscribe to that.

Chula Vista · 11-17-2017, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

No it ****ing is not because I'm not talking about conditional circumstances which only exist in their specific time periods and which change from year to year and century to century. I'm talking about the basic capacity for humans to murder each other. If you really think that under the right circumstances you couldn't have participated or been complicit in genocide then you are one of the braindead masses who are ENTIRELY the problem. Hitler couldn't have killed anybody if sheep like you didn't have such an idiotic comfort in your own moral superiority.

So much bull**** in this reply.

Could I kill if backed into a corner? Sure. Humans are mostly animal by nature.

In 1933 Germany could I have gone along with the genocide out of absolute fear for me and my family's lives? Sure.

In 2017 America I'm neither brain dead nor part of any of your supposed problems.

Put the broad brush away and start considering using some nuance when you get in the mood to rant.

**Frownland** · 11-17-2017, 10:02 AM

And that kind of idiotic arrogance is dangerous. Pay attention.

Chula Vista · 11-17-2017, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

And that kind of idiotic arrogance is dangerous. Pay attention.

Until you explain the grounds for you using the word "arrogance" to define what I'm saying - I'm tuning you out.

Trollheart · 11-17-2017, 10:06 AM

Are you saying he's arrogant because he doesn't know - none of us know - what lengths we would go to if pushed into a corner, if fighting for our lives? I'm curious to know.

**Frownland** · 11-17-2017, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Until you explain the grounds for you using the word "arrogance" to define what I'm saying - I'm tuning you out.

You're going to tune me out anyways since I'm not going to say what's already printed on your hat but here goes.

Thinking that America is incapable of committing horrific domestic atrocities suggests that we are above and beyond basic human nature. That is arrogant as **** my friend. You're banking on things that can change easily as evidence that we could never commit such atrocities and that's also arrogant (well, more short-sighted and irrelevant tbh) because of how quickly things can change. Did you ever think someone like Trump could be president? How long ago would that be a sheer impossibility for you? Your points are meaningless in light of Batlord's overall stance. Now ignore everything I said and shout at me about something you misinterpreted.

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