Chula Vista

1. Define "horrific domestic atrocities". You talking cops shooting unarmed people and getting away with murder? A nutbag shooting into a concert crowd and killing 50+ people? Millions of people going to bed hungry everynight because our politics are so ****ed up?

Or are you talking about our goverment using chemical weapons to silence millions of dissidents? Or maybe condeming all hard-core liberals to the ovens? Or better yet, death squads deployed to eliminate anyone in the country who can't trace back their US roots to at least a single grandparent?

Question Mister Moderator: In the last few pages I've been called "stupid", "arrogant", "braindead", and "idiotic".

Aren't their rules about name calling on this board?

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

The Holocaust and any other atrocity that can happen.

That as well. The spark is present in all humanity, that is the point. We have not evolved past that point simply because of the current climate that can rapidly change and no longer be relevant.

I was using your tactics in hopes that I can pound this simple concept into your skull, but you ought to try not living up to those adjectives so often. Thanks for fulfilling my request of not responding to any of the actual points though.

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Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Chula Vista

Sigh.....

In the time since our European forefathers came over and decided to wipe out the natives in order to take over US soil, care to point to a "domestic atrocity" that equates to even one percentile of the horror that was the holocaust?

The US is a first world nation that HAS evolved beyond the bleak pictures you and Bat want to paint.

Unless there is a total collapse of all of our infrastruture (post nuclear war for example), we will never devolve to anywhere near 30s Germany.

And again, I'm agreeing with you both regrading our innate ability to kill to survive if necessary. I just don't see a scenario in our current social environment where a large enough group of US citizens would make a conscious and unified decision to exterminate another group of US citizens - like what happened during Nazi era Germany.

That's my opinion. I'm not stupid, arrogant, braindead, or idiotic. Stop stooping to those adjectives as a retort simply because you disagree with me.

Glass half full = glass half empty.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

You have not demonstrated this or at least you have not demonstrated that you agree on the lengths that people will go to preserve comfort.

And doot doot doot doot that's not ****ing relevant to the actual point because things are capable of changing. Capieche?

I only do it when you do (except for when I said you were too stupid to see that people are too stupid to see how stupid they are, that was just me being hilarious as usual), so show me how it's done and I'll follow suit.

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Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Chula Vista

Enter my sphere and I'll happily shoot you in the face.

Might do your "beard" some good.

Dude, I'm all about the possible end of days. I fully understand that enormous **** can hit the fan in a heartbeat. I just currently consider that scenario as an extreme outlier here in the USA.

BUT:

I have enough food, water, and other necessaties to last about a month for me, Linny, and Mike. And the pets. After a month we'll simply go Z-Nation.

I have an axe, workboots, a full set of tools, and industrial gloves. PS: Don't ever try picking thru shards of glass with bare hands.

I have a battery operated AM radio, a six pack of LED lanterns, a few flashlights, and a case of batteries to keep them all running.

Not exactly on point with what we're discussing. Just wanted to put it out there.

I'm a thousand miles removed from naive.

But you already know that. Right?

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

Because naive people are so self aware .

This is an abstract discussion. Nobody gives a **** about your individual emergency plans. The fact that you're still harping on these irrelevant points show that you're either incapable of or not interested in understanding Batlord's point so why don't you just go and write down "everything is and will always be ok" to make yourself feel better after such a meanie discussion as this.

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Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Chula Vista

Now I'm naive. OK. Just another lame retort.

I'll bow out then. I prefer summary discussions.

But you drown in pretense all you want.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

Point was that I'm not just going to stop thinking you're naive because you say you're not, so saying that you're 1000 miles away from being naive is pretty pointless. You need to *clears throat* demonstrate it.

Basically "I don't want to talk to a bunch of annoying dorks anyway!" Glad you're showing me that high road.

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Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

The Batlord

Nobody is talking about that so why do you keep bringing it up? It's completely irrelevant.

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Oriphiel

Can you guys please take this conversation to Kiiii's profile page?

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