Who deserves the title "The King of Rock and Roll"?

Howard the Duck · 03-16-2011, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf Dog Moon

What Elvis did was push the beat and make it rock & roll. The Carl Perkins original is laid-back country in feel. Sometimes the vehicle driving the song (Elvis) is more important than the original writer. Another example is Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain covered by Willie Nelson. Elvis brought Rock & Roll, which was black music, to the masses. Such things can not be understated. But, this is just my opinion. Not saying you are wrong, just what I feel. Someone has to break the mold.

Carl Perkins is more authentic rockabilly

I don't think Elvis was doing anything new to Blue Suede Shoes, the things he did was just speeding up the beat with heavier accents, towards a more Afrocentric style

I do, however, say that when he was with Scotty Moore and Bill Black during the sessions at Sun studios, the music then was pretty innovative and relatively new, incorporating jazz, blues, country - then again, they only revitalised bluegrass, folk and blues standards

Wolf Dog Moon · 03-16-2011, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Yes , I agree with you to a certain degree that he was a great performer and he used that ability to make Rock and Roll a more common thing in people's mind. I just don't agree that he should have that title for just being a really good performer. He was really the Britney Spears of his time.

I couldn't disagree more. Britney Spears as compared to Elvis, are you serious? Yikes. Good performer? You do realize that Hey Joe by Jimi Hendrix is a cover, right? And half of Led Zeppelin's songs are covers that they did not credit the source. Cocaine is not written by Clapton, neither is Crossroads. Not sure where you're going with the performer thing. 99% of Rock & Roll is performance. Even Chuck Berry knew that and learned from Muddy Waters, T-bone Walker, and may other blues masters.

Comparing Britney Spears to Elvis is like comparing the Monkeys with The Beatles...I just don't know what to say! I think you're picking a fight. So I am walking away now...

Howard the Duck · 03-16-2011, 06:36 AM

mebbe Britney Spears accumulating over time, with lots of hindsight, will be bigger than Elvis in the future?

The Monkees may not be Beatles standard, but they were still pretty good

djchameleon · 03-16-2011, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf Dog Moon

I couldn't disagree more. Britney Spears as compared to Elvis, are you serious? Yikes. Good performer? You do realize that Hey Joe by Jimi Hendrix is a cover, right? And half of Led Zeppelin's songs are covers that they did not credit the source. Cocaine is not written by Clapton, neither is Crossroads. Not sure where you're going with the performer thing. 99% of Rock & Roll is performance. Even Chuck Berry knew that and learned from Muddy Waters, T-bone Walker, and may other blues masters.

Comparing Britney Spears to Elvis is like comparing the Monkeys with The Beatles...I just don't know what to say! I think you're picking a fight. So I am walking away now...

lol, i'm not picking a fight or trying to troll you or anything.

I know that covers exist and that other artists don't always write their own material but that's not my point.

To my knowledge, Elvis didn't write a single thing that he performed and that he was well known for. I might be wrong and feel free to correct me but that's what I have always thought.

**Janszoon** · 03-16-2011, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf Dog Moon

What Elvis did was push the beat and make it rock & roll. The Carl Perkins original is laid-back country in feel. Sometimes the vehicle driving the song (Elvis) is more important than the original writer. Another example is Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain covered by Willie Nelson. Elvis brought Rock & Roll, which was black music, to the masses. Such things can not be understated. But, this is just my opinion. Not saying you are wrong, just what I feel. Someone has to break the mold.

If you feel that the "king of rock n roll" should be the person who brought it to the masses, then shouldn't the title go to Bill Haley? He had the first hit rock song after all.

John Jagger · 03-18-2011, 12:35 PM

Buddy Holly....

~~The Virgin~~ · 03-18-2011, 12:49 PM

i voted Elvis Presley, not that I'm a big fan of him but my father told me he was the greatest, ever....and I believed him.

Bloozcrooz · 03-30-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle

Rock and roll existed long before Hendrix took to stage, and plenty of black musicians (guitarists specifically) existed beforehand who shocked the world with their skills. Hendrix is a great example, but he's not the first and really can't be the king of the genre consequently.

If I had to choose from this list, I'd pick Chuck Berry. My opinions on Elvis are so venomous that I'll keep them to myself.

I mentioned the obvious timeline of who was around first and Hendrix definatley was not. But who would deliver the biggest blow to Rock and Roll history if you took them out of the equasion? You just cant convince me that it wouldnt be Hendrix.

Davey Moore · 04-07-2011, 06:33 AM

Probably Elvis, it was kind of a stolen crown though, the originators were creating the crown and Elvis stole it from them when he introduced it to all the sheltered white kids.

And it was those white kids who created the majority of everything that spawned from rock, didn't they?

Also, I need to keep telling you if you took Hendrix out of the equation rock would have developed just fine. :P

djchameleon · 04-07-2011, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey Moore

Also, I need to keep telling you if you took Hendrix out of the equation rock would have developed just fine. :P

I keep telling Bloozin that but he's such a fanboy that he doesn't believe so.

View Poll Results: Who deserves the title "The King of Rock and Roll"?
Elvis Presley	103	41.53%
Chuck Berry	75	30.24%
Little Richard	14	5.65%
Neither	56	22.58%
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