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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-12-2021, 01:53 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
Neither of those are accurate, you're...

Neither of those are accurate, you're romanticising things.

Humans want to be free on a small personal level because it's obviously in their interest. On a societal level freedom is an exception...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 04:59 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
if I believed reducing freedom would lead to...

if I believed reducing freedom would lead to happiness on a really fundamental level then yes. not necessarily always though
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 04:15 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
I should add one qualifier: the concept of...

I should add one qualifier: the concept of justice may be the only exception where people believe in it because of an instinctive conviction, but I'm not sure it even applies there
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 03:50 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
one axiomatic belief is not the same as an entire...

one axiomatic belief is not the same as an entire ethical system.
and yes, the freedom = good idea is based on the idea that it generally leads to more happiness (or rather less unhappiness, which...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 03:14 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
we do appeal to a higher morality. but that...

we do appeal to a higher morality. but that higher morality is based on principles which are fundamentally utilitarian. cruel totalitarianism + lack of freedom = less happiness -> freedom and...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 02:56 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
And there we have what I suspected: the ethics...

And there we have what I suspected: the ethics you proclaim to follow are basically aesthetics. I guess that's your intention though
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 04:27 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
No, I mean there must be some basis for the...

No, I mean there must be some basis for the morals you feel, for some people it's more logical and for others emothional, but even emothional reactions are a kind of subconscious ethical system. That...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 01:49 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
Omg the whole point is that you develop ethics...

Omg the whole point is that you develop ethics from utilitarian principles so that you don't have to go through that calculation. That ethics system is developed ages ago and we inherit it with our...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 01:07 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
No, I mean ultimately your system of ethics is...

No, I mean ultimately your system of ethics is developed on some basis, which is most likely utilitarian. The default is deciding some abstract concepts are right or wrong, based on utilitarian...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-10-2021, 04:54 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
yeah that sounds like just a pretentious way of...

yeah that sounds like just a pretentious way of saying what I thought you said. Instead of flipping the order of things around you're thinking in circles, because how do you decide what is ethical?
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-10-2021, 04:20 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
that's just what I was talking about I think....

that's just what I was talking about I think. Those notions of righteousness are ultimately based on the idea that they lead to a good outcome, and that idea gets generalised by assigning those...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-10-2021, 10:24 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,339
Posted By Marie Monday
Yeah I'm more of a negative utilitarist...

Yeah I'm more of a negative utilitarist (minimising unhappiness seems better to me than maximising happiness) but I'd call myself a utilitarist.
Also in its pure form its virtually impossible to...
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