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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-12-2021, 02:46 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
it's very similar to his statement that the death...

it's very similar to his statement that the death penalty for drink driving would clearly lead to better outcomes/less harm...

The problem with these hypotheticals is not even that they're...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 09:13 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
..?

..?
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 05:27 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
I didn't ask you to prove it I asked if there's a...

I didn't ask you to prove it I asked if there's a reason why you prefer it... Are you saying there's no reason?
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 05:25 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
yeah but it's overly simplistic to say...

yeah but it's overly simplistic to say utilitarian ethics is just about happiness. Just like any other ethical system, there can be competing values.

So you can seek to maximize "well being," of...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 05:14 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
nobody said you could prove it Utilitarian...

nobody said you could prove it

Utilitarian ethics can still be subjective. "Well being" and "suffering" can be subjective criteria.

You never answered my question. Why value democracy over...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 11:17 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
you're using utilitarian/consequentialist...

you're using utilitarian/consequentialist language/reasoning whether you are aware of it or not

I.e. framing it as an attempt to maximize well being and reduce suffering.
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 11:16 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
it's subjective but it's not random. And if it's...

it's subjective but it's not random. And if it's not random that means there is some underlying influences that ultimately shape the direction that it takes, and those influences I would argue are...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 03:05 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
why do we value justice though? Any ideas on...

why do we value justice though? Any ideas on that?

So far I'm hearing from you that we just value some things cause we value them... Which seems pretty unsatisfying. You don't think there's any...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 03:02 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
Yeah ok you can say that but that seems like a...

Yeah ok you can say that but that seems like a different way of phrasing the same thing

The value of truth is overridden but the otherwise negative consequences it would cause

Why would you...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 02:46 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
I don't disagree with you with regard to it not...

I don't disagree with you with regard to it not being based on utilitarian calculus.. or in other words we don't work out said calculation when making moral decisions. like I said I think all these...
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-11-2021, 01:17 AM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
why? It seems like the only thing you could...

why?

It seems like the only thing you could say it's cause it's more fair or something which in itself is a sort of good outcome

Like any of those values if you drill down to the core......
Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion 05-10-2021, 09:23 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 2,340
Posted By jwb
is the term deontology? I think that's the most...

is the term deontology? I think that's the most common alternative to utilitarianism.

I don't agree with you though. Like freedom doesn't have inherent value despite the outcome. . necessary...
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