Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
09-07-2021, 11:18 AM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
09-06-2021, 12:56 AM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
09-01-2021, 12:34 AM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-30-2021, 10:37 PM
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I don't know if there is a limit. The way the...
I don't know if there is a limit. The way the infractions are supposed to work is roughly like this:
When users break rules, mods punish with infractions. The infractions last for a set amount of...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-30-2021, 03:26 PM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-30-2021, 07:26 AM
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I can't guarantee that I'd want to partake in...
I can't guarantee that I'd want to partake in such a discussion (I'm here for enjoyment and am somewhat selective), but if you do create that thread in the current events, philosophy & religion forum...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 04:03 PM
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As I already stated, it took me a while (years)...
As I already stated, it took me a while (years) to arrive at my current position. I don't want FZ to have been sexist. However, I also don't want to be blind to it and either way I can't really unsee...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 12:29 PM
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This is roughly what I believe he did and what...
This is roughly what I believe he did and what Butcher's account seems to confirm.
It's my impression that as women became a commodity, he lost some respect for them. I think he could offend them...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 12:09 PM
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It's the account of someone who spent a lot of...
It's the account of someone who spent a lot of time with Zappa, saw his behaviour and discussed women's lib and morals with him. She addressed what is understatedly called their double standard. How...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 12:02 PM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 11:48 AM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 11:41 AM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 11:29 AM
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Replies: 508
Views: 49,186
Quoting the Butcher article yet again:
But...
Quoting the Butcher article yet again:
But gradually she began to experience moments of clarity. When Butcher heard one of the "Mothers" – the members of Zappa's backing band, the Mothers of...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 11:12 AM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 05:23 AM
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He is her boss, right? Is it okay for a boss in...
He is her boss, right? Is it okay for a boss in this situation to pressure an employee into sex? Because I think any sane person would start to wonder what it would mean for her future employment and...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-29-2021, 05:02 AM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-28-2021, 05:30 PM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-28-2021, 04:50 PM
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He doesn't always hide behind characters. And...
He doesn't always hide behind characters. And perhaps you didn't read the whole discussion, but I already commented on the real world FZ. Banging groupies was his vice, to his wife's dismay. He says...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-28-2021, 11:13 AM
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You can probably imagine that as a Zappa fan,...
You can probably imagine that as a Zappa fan, I've had this discussion before. Both with other people and in my own brain for a long time. I've been on your side of the discussion for years and...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-28-2021, 08:43 AM
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-28-2021, 03:19 AM
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I'd probably just give her a name or call her...
I'd probably just give her a name or call her girl or woman and somehow, without judgment, describe her joy of having sex with members of the band. Why would I have to invoke a derogatory term at...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-27-2021, 06:54 AM
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I've been an FZ apologist too, still am...
I've been an FZ apologist too, still am sometimes. And sure, there could be inside joke reasons that could make a lyric look worse than what is actually meant, but having to resort to convoluted...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-26-2021, 10:30 PM
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Replies: 508
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It's not the focus on sex. Rather, it's the...
It's not the focus on sex. Rather, it's the contempt and condescension coupled with it. At worst, you could make a case for rapey, like when saying that women will be funked in the ass (which is...
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-26-2021, 11:56 AM
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Replies: 508
Views: 49,186
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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock
08-26-2021, 11:18 AM
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Replies: 508
Views: 49,186
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