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Forum: Pop 01-14-2012, 05:13 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Don't worry about the thread title, it was just a...

Don't worry about the thread title, it was just a way to question why people always call Michael Jackson the King of Pop. I think people define pop way too narrowly nowadays anyway.
Forum: Pop 01-14-2012, 11:21 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Not sure if the Bee Gees kept writing good songs...

Not sure if the Bee Gees kept writing good songs after the 1985. I don't know any at least.
Forum: Pop 08-13-2011, 12:13 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
People mishear lyrics anyway and just remember...

People mishear lyrics anyway and just remember bits of them more just because they are connected to the best hooks, normally in the chorus. And people hum melodies a lot too if they don't remember...
Forum: Pop 08-10-2011, 12:52 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
What I mean is that people can inflate the...

What I mean is that people can inflate the importance of lyrics, it's not the same as poetry (which I also like). The music is the main thing, as long as the lyrics don't interfere with the music by...
Forum: Pop 08-07-2011, 12:02 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
It always seems a bit pretentious to me when...

It always seems a bit pretentious to me when people talk about the importance of lyrics, most people don't remember lyrics to songs much and they listen to songs for the music and not the lyrics...
Forum: Pop 08-06-2011, 10:58 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
The way the audience receives older works is...

The way the audience receives older works is definitely different now to how they would have 300 years ago and that is part of my point. And whether something is more conventional or more rebellious...
Forum: Pop 08-05-2011, 04:50 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
I think there is a big difference between...

I think there is a big difference between something written 40 years ago and something wrote 300 years ago, the whole world has changed in the way music is produced and consumed.

'Importance' is a...
Forum: Pop 07-22-2011, 01:26 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
When I said classical I meant classical music in...

When I said classical I meant classical music in general and not specifically the classical style, so I did include JS Bach in that.

People love to make comparisons but I wonder if there comes a...
Forum: Pop 07-20-2011, 11:27 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
McCartney has done some good music and melodies. ...

McCartney has done some good music and melodies. But I think when comparing him to the very greatest (to most people) classical composers they just did such an amazing amount of good stuff. The...
Forum: Pop 07-20-2011, 02:39 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
I said in an earlier post I did this thread to...

I said in an earlier post I did this thread to show how silly it was people saying, as if it's unquestionable, that Michael Jackson is the 'king of pop'. There are obviously others who it could be...
Forum: Pop 07-18-2011, 01:18 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Maybe, it could be someone in the media sometimes...

Maybe, it could be someone in the media sometimes who sees it as a way to make a group or singer more interesting. But it's definitely something record companies would very enthusiastically take up...
Forum: Pop 07-18-2011, 11:23 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
I'm not saying they get a title after they die. ...

I'm not saying they get a title after they die. That point was separate, I'm saying some get hyped after they die early which I think is true

Or course record companies will use titles that...
Forum: Pop 07-17-2011, 05:30 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
So you say it's just a gimmick and then you say...

So you say it's just a gimmick and then you say there is an element of truth.

Really I think these outlandish statements are more that if people hear something often enough they believe it as fact...
Forum: Pop 07-16-2011, 02:25 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
That's certainly the case with me, though I...

That's certainly the case with me, though I wonder if that is the case with all. People talk about artists representing an age just because they got lots of promotion and of being totally original...
Forum: Pop 07-15-2011, 07:22 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Best album he did outside of The Beatles for me...

Best album he did outside of The Beatles for me is Band on the Run. But to me it isn't really about albums (there are relatively few classic albums that have been made in my estimation) it's more...
Forum: Pop 07-14-2011, 01:18 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Although I like some of his music I'm not sure...

Although I like some of his music I'm not sure he's really really produced as many good songs across the decades as McCartney. Icons? Yes that is about image, and most rock musicians depend on...
Forum: Pop 07-14-2011, 01:11 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Much of McCartney's stuff with The Beatles is...

Much of McCartney's stuff with The Beatles is basically solo stuff anyway, so I don't see much difference. Apart from the first hits they had many of Lennon's and McCartney's songs were largely...
Forum: Pop 07-13-2011, 04:43 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Except that I never said The Beatles had no...

Except that I never said The Beatles had no image. Where did I actually say that? In your imagination.

Bowie intentionally set out to shock visually, his image was part of his whole act. The...
Forum: Pop 07-13-2011, 12:18 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
That was part of what I was thinking. Rock is as...

That was part of what I was thinking. Rock is as much about image as pop, in some ways maybe much more so. Bowie was seen to epitomise the glam scene and established himself as much because of his...
Forum: Pop 07-08-2011, 02:16 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
I doubt Bowie would agree. :D As I said...

I doubt Bowie would agree. :D

As I said Bowie has done some good music, but I think he is rated even higher by some because of his unusual rock image.
Forum: Pop 07-07-2011, 11:58 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Ray Davies is one of the best. Along with some...

Ray Davies is one of the best. Along with some others like Brian Wilson, Paul Simon, McCartney, Bacharach, Webb, Jobim.
Forum: Pop 07-07-2011, 02:36 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
McCartney is obviously nowhere near as good as...

McCartney is obviously nowhere near as good as Mozart, Bach or Beethoven. But then neither is Bowie.



I never mentioned Ringo Starr.



I don't like the melody of China Girl so much. I do...
Forum: Pop 07-07-2011, 12:26 PM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
I like some Bowie songs like Life on Mars,...

I like some Bowie songs like Life on Mars, Starman, Ashes to Ashes, Space Oddity, but he is overrated.
Forum: Pop 07-07-2011, 11:15 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Well it depends what you like. Something that...

Well it depends what you like. Something that rocks a bit like Jet or Maybe I'm Amazed? Or maybe ballads like Only Love Remains, Here Today, London Town, Warm and Beautiful. Or something with more...
Forum: Pop 07-07-2011, 08:40 AM
Replies: 169
Views: 23,816
Posted By starrynight
Running with the Night, The Only One. I think...

Running with the Night, The Only One. I think all the songs on Can't Slow Down are ok and it was a huge seller, critics just get snobby about it and miss it from their lists all the time.
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