daren/MRI's Songwriting Journal

daren/MRI · 12-26-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

I like figuring out songs myself.

I hear ya- me too/
you see though i got PMd a question "Why the Walgreens Sign"? so I edited in an explanation

I am new here so I don't know everyone - also you are free to form your own opinion of song lyrics and possible meanings. Just because i wrote the song doesn't mean it has only one meaning. Your meaning can be better or even more valid than my own... I'm simply the songwriter here to deliver some type of message - I am more concerned that the songs make you feel something and not necessarily in accordance with what i say or feel or think -

sometimes it takes a listener to tell the songwriter what his work is really about

cheers!

daren/MRI · 01-15-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Wifey Boozer

I like you.

First stanzas my favorite. You've got rhyme, something I could never. Congrats dear

Hey Lexxi - there is an MRI Music Video now for The Beautiful And Dangerous up on youTube:

YouTube - "The Beautiful And Dangerous" MRI Music Video

I bet you will recognize some more of the actors!!!!! Cheers!!

Frozen Angel · 01-15-2009, 07:03 PM

Some of this makes me scratch my head and think "What?" Most of it is amazing..and some of it is VERY forced, or you couldn't think of something better to say becasue it HAD to rhyme.

Hey, not all of it has to rhyme. But where to rhyme and not to rhyme needs to be measured out equally. Rhyme every other line to make it easier on yourself, or only rhyme the 2nd and 4th lines and so on.

I know not everyone in here is writing lyrics, maybe only some stanzas need rhyming, preferably the ones that have the MOST impact.

"lichens grow under your skin
your vegetable is all within"

What?

This is prob my favorite part of all of it:
"there is not an antidote
there is not a shred of hope
the beautiful and dangerous
things you said before you broke
everything that was my life
time to tease; time to grin
time to laugh at everything
time to take your ecstasy
time to find your deep meaning"

It is my favorite part because you said what you wanted to say without having to carefully choose the words so they rhymed. To me that part is the most effective and most natural part of the whole thing. Even though it starts with the same two words in the last 4 lines.

daren/MRI · 01-15-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frozen Angel

Some of this makes me scratch my head and think "What?" Most of it is amazing..and some of it is VERY forced, or you couldn't think of something better to say becasue it HAD to rhyme.

Hey, not all of it has to rhyme. But where to rhyme and not to rhyme needs to be measured out equally. Rhyme every other line to make it easier on yourself, or only rhyme the 2nd and 4th lines and so on.

I know not everyone in here is writing lyrics, maybe only some stanzas need rhyming, preferably the ones that have the MOST impact.

"lichens grow under your skin
your vegetable is all within"

What?

This is prob my favorite part of all of it:
"there is not an antidote
there is not a shred of hope
the beautiful and dangerous
things you said before you broke
everything that was my life
time to tease; time to grin
time to laugh at everything
time to take your ecstasy
time to find your deep meaning"

It is my favorite part because you said what you wanted to say without having to carefully choose the words so they rhymed. To me that part is the most effective and most natural part of the whole thing. Even though it starts with the same two words in the last 4 lines.

hey i got yelled at before for trying to 'explain' songs -- and i felt dumb being kinda new here doing so --

but the vegetable/lichens reference is to a person who wore many different 'skins' but deep down they were incapable of true empathy like a vegetable or rock etc... the image of lichens clinging to rocks but like right below the epidermis....that is why all the surgery/Xray footage in song video etc...

Frozen Angel · 01-15-2009, 08:45 PM

I didn't watch the video. I only read imagery and discription of pills and heroin...as the reader, I have the right to interpret as I understand it.

I see nothing wrong with exlaining songs, especailly since everything is open to interpretation the minute you "publish" it.

yeah I'm new here too, but not new to lyric writing...I have written them for (making myself sound old) 13 years. (ok fine I am that old)

daren/MRI · 01-15-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Frozen Angel

I didn't watch the video. I only read imagery and discription of pills and heroin...as the reader, I have the right to interpret as I understand it.

I see nothing wrong with exlaining songs, especailly since everything is open to interpretation the minute you "publish" it.

yeah I'm new here too, but not new to lyric writing...I have written them for (making myself sound old) 13 years. (ok fine I am that old)

ok cool i hear ya! You have every single right to interpret it as you feel the need to do of course! i was merely pointing out the Video as it's not your typical video - much more artsy and non-commercial. A lot of the lyrical content I tried to convey not as exact metaphors but more a similar archetypal themes in terms of a video that works w/ the song/. A lot of strong and contrasting/dynamic imagery.

Also I should point out that this song is loosely based on Arthur Rimbaud's Une Saison En Enfer ( A Season In Hell )

daren/MRI · 01-17-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wifey Boozer

Second from last stanza's my favorite. You like the beats too, dontchya?

Sure do!! We even included this cool chick reading from HOWL in the MRI music video for "Helicopter Head" !!! Check it out>>

YouTube - "Helicopter Head" MRI Music Video

Wifey Boozer · 01-18-2009, 10:44 AM

I hear that broads real sound.

Good job mate

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Frozen Angel Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 41	Some of this makes me scratch my head and think "What?" Most of it is amazing..and some of it is VERY forced, or you couldn't think of something better to say becasue it HAD to rhyme. Hey, not all of it has to rhyme. But where to rhyme and not to rhyme needs to be measured out equally. Rhyme every other line to make it easier on yourself, or only rhyme the 2nd and 4th lines and so on. I know not everyone in here is writing lyrics, maybe only some stanzas need rhyming, preferably the ones that have the MOST impact. "lichens grow under your skin your vegetable is all within" What? This is prob my favorite part of all of it: "there is not an antidote there is not a shred of hope the beautiful and dangerous things you said before you broke everything that was my life time to tease; time to grin time to laugh at everything time to take your ecstasy time to find your deep meaning" It is my favorite part because you said what you wanted to say without having to carefully choose the words so they rhymed. To me that part is the most effective and most natural part of the whole thing. Even though it starts with the same two words in the last 4 lines.

01-15-2009, 08:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
Frozen Angel Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 41	I didn't watch the video. I only read imagery and discription of pills and heroin...as the reader, I have the right to interpret as I understand it. I see nothing wrong with exlaining songs, especailly since everything is open to interpretation the minute you "publish" it. yeah I'm new here too, but not new to lyric writing...I have written them for (making myself sound old) 13 years. (ok fine I am that old)