Noobie needs help on songwriting - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Artists Corner > Song Writing, Lyrics and Poetry
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-29-2015, 08:40 AM   #11 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 206
Default

No one is crippled. Anyone can learn how to play. That's what I'm saying. I have faith in those who wish to learn. When I see someone who is eager to learn, I try to guide them along, with the best of my abilities, skills, experience and knowledge, as I would've wanted when I was still learning. When I see someone that can play really well, I go to them and say, "You play really well, can I show you what I can do?". And hopefully I'll gain some instruction from them. I've never failed to gain something positive from doing that. How do you think I feel when someone comes up to me and says, "Hey, you play really well, can I show you what I can do?".....
E5I5O is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2015, 08:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,548
Default

It's a shame that reading comprehension is seemingly deteriorating in Western society.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2015, 09:30 AM   #13 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 206
Default

If I could have a nickel for every time I heard that I'd have ten cents.
E5I5O is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2015, 09:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
Just Keep Swimming...
 
Plankton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: See signature...
Posts: 7,766
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by E5I5O View Post
No one is crippled. Anyone can learn how to play. That's what I'm saying. I have faith in those who wish to learn. When I see someone who is eager to learn, I try to guide them along, with the best of my abilities, skills, experience and knowledge, as I would've wanted when I was still learning. When I see someone that can play really well, I go to them and say, "You play really well, can I show you what I can do?". And hopefully I'll gain some instruction from them. I've never failed to gain something positive from doing that. How do you think I feel when someone comes up to me and says, "Hey, you play really well, can I show you what I can do?".....
I don't know, how do you feel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
It's a shame that reading comprehension is seemingly deteriorating in Western society.
__________________
See location...
Plankton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2015, 10:17 AM   #15 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 206
Default

Quote:
I don't know, how do you feel?
When it comes to those who post at a music-based board and are unwilling to nurture and guide along those who want to seek out musical accomplishment, I feel like this:

E5I5O is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2015, 10:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
Just Keep Swimming...
 
Plankton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: See signature...
Posts: 7,766
Default

That's not the premise of the question I asked, now is it.

Look...

You may have perceived that I was doing the OP a disservice, but I can assure you my intentions were of a very nurturing nature. I am in no way, nor have I ever in any way been "unwilling to nurture and guide along those who want to seek out musical accomplishment". I teach guitar. I have for many, many years. I've been a musician for over 30. I know when a student is just being lazy, and I know when a student has that certain passion for music. The OP clearly has put obstacles before themselves that are crippling their apprehension and growth of their ability to create music on their own. I was merely pointing out that they can simply stop doing those things that hinder their growth. Your inability to understand that, and then attack me on your errant assumption is not putting you in a favorable light by me, or any of the other members here that can clearly see you are quite wrong. Please, abstain from the grand standing.
__________________
See location...
Plankton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2015, 11:53 AM   #17 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 206
Default

I never attacked you. I was merely stating my points. And I've been playing guitar and piano since I was fifteen. I taught myself how to play classical. Though I've never actually taught a class, I've played much outside the class room. I know that there are those who have potential and those who are simply enamored by the scene of music itself, which is what makes them want to "learn". Regardless of that, should anyone be chastised for loving music and wanting to learn it? Because that's what I gather from you. That's not the way to teach. I used to know a girl who was Pilipino. And she told me her parents hired a professional piano teacher to teach her classical piano. At the tender age of three, her teacher used to hold a ruler over her hand as she played, and if she missed a note or made any kind of mistake, her teacher would slap her on the hand with that rule-stick. The way you talk to people regarding "teaching" just simply comes off to me the same way. There are better ways to nurture and guide people along in regards to teaching anything, that includes music.
E5I5O is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2015, 12:09 PM   #18 (permalink)
Just Keep Swimming...
 
Plankton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: See signature...
Posts: 7,766
Default

I'm bored so...

Quote:
Originally Posted by E5I5O View Post
I never attacked you.
You sure called me out on what your perception of what my posts meant to you. That's an attack on me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by E5I5O View Post
I've never actually taught a class
So, what ground do you have to stand on as far as teaching methods? None.

Quote:
Originally Posted by E5I5O View Post
should anyone be chastised for loving music and wanting to learn it?
How the hell did I chastise anyone?

Quote:
Originally Posted by E5I5O View Post
Because that's what I gather from you.
Your perception.

Quote:
Originally Posted by E5I5O View Post
I used to know a girl who was Pilipino. And she told me her parents hired a professional piano teacher to teach her classical piano. At the tender age of three, her teacher used to hold a ruler over her hand as she played, and if she missed a note or made any kind of mistake, her teacher would slap her on the hand with that rule-stick.
Poor girl. I certainly wouldn't teach anyone like that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by E5I5O View Post
The way you talk to people regarding "teaching" just simply comes off to me the same way. There are better ways to nurture and guide people along in regards to teaching anything, that includes music.
Again, your perception.

Here's a scenario that might help you understand what I was trying to do:

Someone keeps getting headaches because they keep bashing themselves over the head with a hammer. I tell that person to stop bashing themselves over the head with a hammer, and they stop getting headaches. Does that make any sense to you?
__________________
See location...
Plankton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2015, 12:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 206
Default

To be perfectly honest with you, you're the only one bashing your head....

Quote:
Your inability to understand that, and then attack me on your errant assumption is not putting you in a favorable light by me, or any of the other members here that can clearly see you are quite wrong
This right here sounds like a threat and an attempt to gather others against me because you don't like what I've posted. I don't know what others on this board feel. And you are no one to answer for them. No individual should ever be allowed to answer for a group of people. Otherwise, that simply makes this an ant colony, where everyone thinks off of one brain. If there is anything I've done that the members of your board feel is wrong then please let me know. You don't have to have me here. I'm not afraid of expulsion.
E5I5O is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2015, 12:37 PM   #20 (permalink)
Just Keep Swimming...
 
Plankton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: See signature...
Posts: 7,766
Default

Yup. We're a big ol colony of ants. I am your ant overlord.
__________________
See location...
Plankton is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.