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jacklovezhimself · 06-09-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by YourLocalTyrant

I would be pumped if you put up a Sufjan comp.
I've been meaning to get into his stuff.

get illinois.
that's what started me off with him.

boo boo · 06-09-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

Thrak is a really good album. The intro track is so good. I love that first riff.

The concept of a "double band" produced lame results when Yes did it, but King Crimson managed to work wonders with it.

And lets not forget the godly bass/chapman stick duo of Tony Levin and Trey Gunn.

crash_override · 06-09-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

The concept of a "double band" produced lame results when Yes did it, but King Crimson managed to work wonders with it.

And lets not forget the godly bass/chapman stick duo of Tony Levin and Trey Gunn.

That bassline on Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream is fantasticly funky. I love the bass work on this album.

p.s. I threw it on earlier when I saw it was mentioned. I haven't heard it in a while.

Mirrorball95 · 06-09-2009, 05:26 PM

Yeah I also love the riff on 'Vroom'. I usually do this when Im getting into a new band. I bought their most acclaimed album and then went out and bought a more obscure album from much later in their career. What I was surprised at was how heavy Thrak was compared to 'In The Court..'.

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Originally Posted by crash_override

That bassline on Sex Sleep Eat Drink Dream is fantasticly funky. I love the bass work on this album.

p.s. I threw it on earlier when I saw it was mentioned. I haven't heard it in a while.

Also this part makes me happy. I know what its like when you listen to a really great album you havent heard in ages.

jackhammer · 06-12-2009, 06:47 PM

Thrash Metal

This is more of an introduction to a genre and hopefully some of the younger members might like it and see where the multitudes of metal sub genres came from initially. Thrash was a massive shot in the arm for metal as the NWOBHM was burning out along came Thrash with it's Metal roots influenced by Punk and Hardcore. All the tracks on here are pre 1990 and I have purposely excluded the big 4 here ( Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer,Anthrax). I have also seen 7 of the bands live although that is just me showing off! enjoy please!

1. Death Angel-Evil Priest
Recorded in '86 and released in '87 this bay area band are one of the most influential bands in the Thrash scene and not bad for a drummer who was only 14 at the time! lyrically this is bloody awful cliched crap but that bass line in the middle and the subsequent accelerating guitar riff is nothing short of stellar.
2. Vio-lence-Phobophobia
If you are wondering it's fear of fear! Vio-lence never really got the attention that they deserved probably due to Sean Killians vocal style which many found ill fitting amidst their razor sharp riffs. This track has plenty of riffs jostling for attention yet it is still streamlined and tight as! Guitarist robb flynn went on to front a little band called Machine Head!
3. Testament-Burnt Offereings
Outside of the big 4, Testament were always the fans favourite and it could be argued that theirs is the quintessential Thrash sound. Again lyrically terrible, it makes up for that in the twin guitar muscular riffs and it remains a Thrash classic.
4. Sepultura-To The Wall
For many the band never recaptured the raw power of their second album Schizophrenia from which this track is taken and this awesome track backs that up. Brilliant raw production and the stupendous drum work of Igor Cavalera make this another absolute classic and not nearly heralded enough amidst the bands later success's.
5.Kreator-Stream Of Consciousness
Always one of the rawer bands in the Thrash fraternity and a band that's live power has never been captured well on vinyl at all which was a shame as the efficient riffing and vocal power of Mille Petrozza has always given Kreator a unique sound. Love the openeing riff that bounces off the bass drum pattern.
6.Sabbat-The Best Of Enemies
How I love that intro with the bass guitar and double bass drum punctuated with that guitar riff. Sabbat where always a band not quite of their time and if they were around in the 70's i swear that they would have been a Prog band! Musically they were very different from the usual sound and employed lots of time changes and unusual vocal techniques. Dreamweaver is another album that needs reappraising.
7.Mortal Sin-Mayhemic Destruction
Mortal Sin were unusual due to the fact that they were from Australia (hardly a mecca for Thrash) and the fact that they were unashamedly old school thrash. The same titled debut album suffered from bad production and the band fell into many cliches on the album. However this track showed their potential and really cements it's place here with it's change of pace and awesome riff that kicks in at 2:50. It remains one of my favourite Thrash riffs ever.
8.Dark Angel-No One Answers
The main stop start riff on this track is still absolutely fucking mental and still sounds heavy as hell even today. Dark Angel began life as a cliched speed/Thrash band dabbling in the usual Satanic/morbid lyrics but they changed tack with this album. Lyrically very powerful. It dealt with child abuse and it's devastaing effects on the young. It's a shame about the faster parts as the production cannot quite keep up with the band and it sounds a little murky. That riff is still worth it. Amazing.
9.Meliah Rage-Impending Doom
A bit of a cheat here as Meliah Rage were essentially a power metal band that jumped on the Thrash bandwagon and occasionally on their debut (from which this is taken) reached some great heights. The track is built around a number of excellent riffs and changes in pace that warrant it's inclusion.
10.Nuclear Assault-Brain Death
Epic.Epic.Epic. Although Nuclear Assault took their influences from Punk and Hardcore, the first 3 albums are beloved in Thrash scene and the bands ability to keep that raw edge coupled with Dan Lilkers ridiculously fast bass work made them a live favourite ( I managed to catch the band twice in 4 days in different cities and I managed to hang with them on the later date). This track is worth it for the brilliant middle section that begins at the 3:40 mark and is a perfect send off for my intro to ya all!

NSW · 06-13-2009, 10:31 AM

I love me some Sepultura...yay! I'm checkin' this out now.

jackhammer · 06-13-2009, 05:38 PM

I thought a few more may have liked the Thrash comp?

crash_override · 06-13-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I thought a few more may have liked the Thrash comp?

Loading it now JH, results to follow.

edit: Ok, listened to the thrash comp. It was pertty awesome. I really like the Testament track. Nuclear Assault and Meliah Rage were standouts as well. Great job!

music_phantom13 · 06-14-2009, 09:18 PM

Expect a Pixies comp up tomorrow because I almost cried when I found this thread and discovered there isn't one

. Other than that, would anyone be interested in any of these:

Bad Religion
Pink Floyd stuff not found on Wish You Were Here, Dark Side Of The Moon, The Wall, or Animals
Aesop Rock
Immortal Technique
Animal Collective
Boo Radleys
The Decemberists
Dinosaur Jr.
Sonic Youth
Eels
Fugazi
Grateful Dead
Husker Du
Jimi Hendrix Experience
MF Doom
Mice Parade
The Misfits
Nirvana
Of Montreal
Led Zeppelin
The Shins
Shpongle

These are all bands whose discographies I have that I feel I am knowledgeable enough about and would actually care to do one of these comps, and feel that there could be some interest on here. But I dunno. Just say something if you want one of these to appear, and it will!

FaSho · 06-14-2009, 09:23 PM

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Grateful Dead

Yes please.

06-12-2009, 06:47 PM	#95 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Thrash Metal This is more of an introduction to a genre and hopefully some of the younger members might like it and see where the multitudes of metal sub genres came from initially. Thrash was a massive shot in the arm for metal as the NWOBHM was burning out along came Thrash with it's Metal roots influenced by Punk and Hardcore. All the tracks on here are pre 1990 and I have purposely excluded the big 4 here ( Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer,Anthrax). I have also seen 7 of the bands live although that is just me showing off! enjoy please! 1. Death Angel-Evil Priest Recorded in '86 and released in '87 this bay area band are one of the most influential bands in the Thrash scene and not bad for a drummer who was only 14 at the time! lyrically this is bloody awful cliched crap but that bass line in the middle and the subsequent accelerating guitar riff is nothing short of stellar. 2. Vio-lence-Phobophobia If you are wondering it's fear of fear! Vio-lence never really got the attention that they deserved probably due to Sean Killians vocal style which many found ill fitting amidst their razor sharp riffs. This track has plenty of riffs jostling for attention yet it is still streamlined and tight as! Guitarist robb flynn went on to front a little band called Machine Head! 3. Testament-Burnt Offereings Outside of the big 4, Testament were always the fans favourite and it could be argued that theirs is the quintessential Thrash sound. Again lyrically terrible, it makes up for that in the twin guitar muscular riffs and it remains a Thrash classic. 4. Sepultura-To The Wall For many the band never recaptured the raw power of their second album Schizophrenia from which this track is taken and this awesome track backs that up. Brilliant raw production and the stupendous drum work of Igor Cavalera make this another absolute classic and not nearly heralded enough amidst the bands later success's. 5.Kreator-Stream Of Consciousness Always one of the rawer bands in the Thrash fraternity and a band that's live power has never been captured well on vinyl at all which was a shame as the efficient riffing and vocal power of Mille Petrozza has always given Kreator a unique sound. Love the openeing riff that bounces off the bass drum pattern. 6.Sabbat-The Best Of Enemies How I love that intro with the bass guitar and double bass drum punctuated with that guitar riff. Sabbat where always a band not quite of their time and if they were around in the 70's i swear that they would have been a Prog band! Musically they were very different from the usual sound and employed lots of time changes and unusual vocal techniques. Dreamweaver is another album that needs reappraising. 7.Mortal Sin-Mayhemic Destruction Mortal Sin were unusual due to the fact that they were from Australia (hardly a mecca for Thrash) and the fact that they were unashamedly old school thrash. The same titled debut album suffered from bad production and the band fell into many cliches on the album. However this track showed their potential and really cements it's place here with it's change of pace and awesome riff that kicks in at 2:50. It remains one of my favourite Thrash riffs ever. 8.Dark Angel-No One Answers The main stop start riff on this track is still absolutely fucking mental and still sounds heavy as hell even today. Dark Angel began life as a cliched speed/Thrash band dabbling in the usual Satanic/morbid lyrics but they changed tack with this album. Lyrically very powerful. It dealt with child abuse and it's devastaing effects on the young. It's a shame about the faster parts as the production cannot quite keep up with the band and it sounds a little murky. That riff is still worth it. Amazing. 9.Meliah Rage-Impending Doom A bit of a cheat here as Meliah Rage were essentially a power metal band that jumped on the Thrash bandwagon and occasionally on their debut (from which this is taken) reached some great heights. The track is built around a number of excellent riffs and changes in pace that warrant it's inclusion. 10.Nuclear Assault-Brain Death Epic.Epic.Epic. Although Nuclear Assault took their influences from Punk and Hardcore, the first 3 albums are beloved in Thrash scene and the bands ability to keep that raw edge coupled with Dan Lilkers ridiculously fast bass work made them a live favourite ( I managed to catch the band twice in 4 days in different cities and I managed to hang with them on the later date). This track is worth it for the brilliant middle section that begins at the 3:40 mark and is a perfect send off for my intro to ya all! __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

06-13-2009, 10:31 AM	#96 (permalink)
NSW Bigger and Better Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas girl living in the UK Posts: 2,596	I love me some Sepultura...yay! I'm checkin' this out now. __________________ Hi.

06-13-2009, 05:38 PM	#97 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I thought a few more may have liked the Thrash comp? __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

06-14-2009, 09:18 PM	#99 (permalink)
music_phantom13 Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 942	Expect a Pixies comp up tomorrow because I almost cried when I found this thread and discovered there isn't one . Other than that, would anyone be interested in any of these: Bad Religion Pink Floyd stuff not found on Wish You Were Here, Dark Side Of The Moon, The Wall, or Animals Aesop Rock Immortal Technique Animal Collective Boo Radleys The Decemberists Dinosaur Jr. Sonic Youth Eels Fugazi Grateful Dead Husker Du Jimi Hendrix Experience MF Doom Mice Parade The Misfits Nirvana Of Montreal Led Zeppelin The Shins Shpongle These are all bands whose discographies I have that I feel I am knowledgeable enough about and would actually care to do one of these comps, and feel that there could be some interest on here. But I dunno. Just say something if you want one of these to appear, and it will!