New Policy for Rule Enforcement

DwnWthVwls · 06-02-2015, 09:58 AM

No, if you click the numbers it shows who voted for what.

**Janszoon** · 06-02-2015, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

On an issue this devisive, with talk of peer-pressure voting, I would've thought a secret ballot would've been more appropriate, just like they have in elections. Is there a reason, or is it just an oversight that the voting is public ?

Leaving it public is the only way to ensure that all the votes are coming from actual members rather than sockpuppets.

Key · 06-02-2015, 10:06 AM

So happy that No is winning.

The Batlord · 06-02-2015, 10:08 AM

This election is becoming increasingly contentious and cutthroat. We need Fox News for coverage.

RoxyRollah · 06-02-2015, 10:10 AM

I can cover it if you like.

The Batlord · 06-02-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

I can cover it if you like.

Knock yourself out.

Ninetales · 06-02-2015, 12:34 PM

so this only covers things not in the lounge? am I reading this correctly?

WWWP · 06-02-2015, 12:48 PM

I voted that I don't know, because several people have made strong points on both sides of the debate that have changed my initial views. I'm in favor of a potential trial of new/updated rule enforcement, but I don't see how it could work unless everyone was on board and we could have intelligent discussion about what did or didn't work throughout the trial run, but at this point I foresee a bunch of sad sabotage.

I've also recently realized that any issues I have regarding musicbanter are with specific members that I just don't like much, not necessarily with the mods or the way things are done on a general level. And that's just a personal problem.

Edit: Yac's post in the initial discussion thread was significant. - in trying to decide how to proceed I feel stuck in a loop of "why can't we just all get along and offer constructive ideas to find a middle ground and ultimately better our community" but this whole discussion got so ****ing snarky, it's disappointing.

Edit 2: I also just want to put out there that supporting a change in our current situation doesn't mean I don't appreciate the mods and everything they do. Could the middle ground in this simply be having more mods to lighten the load and enable broader enforcement of our current rules?

Guybrush · 06-02-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

so this only covers things not in the lounge? am I reading this correctly?

I said I'd quit posting in this thread and I'll change that and say I'll stay out of discussions.

I guess I can answer questions

Short version; yes - you are reading it correctly.

Others have suggested that leaving the Lounge out of this so that people have a place to post pretty much like they do today is a good idea. I've incorporated that into the suggestion, so then the lounge threads would have special rules that allow for more freedom for its members.

edit :

I've also edited the first post and added that implementation should start with a trial run.

I discussed the thread title with Batlord on PMs after my last post and he had some convincing arguments. I've now asked LoathsomePete (who was online at the time) to change the title into something less loaded.

Ninetales · 06-02-2015, 02:43 PM

hm see I guess my feelings are that the music part of the forums has never been a problem in my eyes. the lounge seems to be where the most animosity happens. I think I agree that the lounge should be "more free" but imo if theres a place keeping new members (or old ones for that matter) from participating, it's the current lounge culture.

View Poll Results: Are you in favour of a new policy for rule enforcement? (not anonymous)
Yes	13	36.11%
No	20	55.56%
Don't know	3	8.33%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

06-02-2015, 10:06 AM	#43 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	So happy that No is winning.

06-02-2015, 12:34 PM	#47 (permalink)
Ninetales Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: livin wild Posts: 2,179	so this only covers things not in the lounge? am I reading this correctly?

06-02-2015, 02:43 PM	#50 (permalink)
Ninetales Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: livin wild Posts: 2,179	hm see I guess my feelings are that the music part of the forums has never been a problem in my eyes. the lounge seems to be where the most animosity happens. I think I agree that the lounge should be "more free" but imo if theres a place keeping new members (or old ones for that matter) from participating, it's the current lounge culture.