Brexit? Yay or Nay.

**Frownland** · 10-16-2019, 10:10 AM

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Remain in EU :34%
No Deal Brexit: 23%
Brexit but still in customs union: 14%
a Theresa May Brexit option: 9%
Don't know: 21%

If my math is correct, that looks like 46% supporting Brexit versus 34% opposing it.

Lisnaholic · 10-16-2019, 10:22 AM

Yes, that's one very valid take on the results, and it clearly supports the argument in favour of Brexit.

Another approach is to look at the options on the table: every Brexit option is less popular than remaining. For example, if we end up with No Deal, only 23% will be happy, 57% not.

OccultHawk · 10-16-2019, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Yes, that's one very valid take on the results, and it clearly supports the argument in favour of Brexit.

Another approach is to look at the options on the table: every Brexit option is less popular than remaining. For example, if we end up with No Deal, only 23% will be happy, 57% not.

That’s a pretty desperate attempt to manipulate the numbers

No offense but that is pretty lol

~~Cuthbert~~ · 10-16-2019, 01:08 PM

Did you see the tweet the Leave campaign posted earlier in the week, Lisna? Be surprised if you missed it.

Thought it was really poor, hopefully if anything it will have pushed some of those undecided people into choosing Remain. Though how you can still be undecided at this point I do not know.

The Batlord · 10-16-2019, 03:31 PM

God. I haven't asked you for anything after you were a dick and didn't bring my hamster back to life but if you could just **** over Britain I'll be eternally grateful. Thank you.

Lisnaholic · 10-16-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

Did you see the tweet the Leave campaign posted earlier in the week, Lisna? Be surprised if you missed it.

Thought it was really poor, hopefully if anything it will have pushed some of those undecided people into choosing Remain. Though how you can still be undecided at this point I do not know.

^ Actually I hadn't seen that tweet, Fluff, but I just found the World War reference one that you presumably meant. TBH I can't imagine that one tweet in bad taste is gonna swing public opinion very much.
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That’s a pretty desperate attempt to manipulate the numbers

No offense but that is pretty lol

^ lol. Of course no offense - and I have to admit to wishful thinking in my urge to find that the majority of Brits have changed into Remainers after 3 years of debate and chaos.

This quote from the article that goes with the poll shows that any change-around is not as big as I'd hoped, but it does seem to be there. It's fair use if I bold the bit that supports my argument, right?

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Few voters have changed their minds

... very few voters on either side of the argument have changed their minds about whether the UK should leave the EU. The country appears to be just as divided as it was three years ago.

On average, during the last month, polls that ask people how they would vote in another referendum suggest that 88% of those who backed Remain would do so again. Among those who voted Leave, 86% have not changed their minds.

These figures have changed very little during the last two years.

True, most polls suggest - and have done so for some time - that the balance of opinion might be tilted narrowly in favour of remaining a member of the EU. On average, this is by 53% to 47%.

However, this lead for Remain rests primarily on the views expressed by those who did not vote three years ago - and perhaps might not do so again.

In truth, nobody can be sure what would happen if there were to be another referendum.

^ So, by careful selection of stats, we have:-

Original referendum: Brexiteers: 52%, Remainers: 48% = Brexiteers point advantage: 4%
Recent polling: Brexiteers: 47%, Remainers: 53% = Remainers point advantage:6%

Likewise no offense, OH, but doesn't that make a case in favour of holding a second referendum ?

Lisnaholic · 10-16-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

God. I haven't asked you for anything after you were a dick and didn't bring my hamster back to life but if you could just **** over Britain I'll be eternally grateful. Thank you.

^ Right now he's busy ****ing over the Kurds, the Hong Kong protesters and Rudy Giuliani, but yeah, perhaps Britain deserves its turn next.

The Batlord · 10-16-2019, 03:47 PM

When you consider that Britain bears a heavy at the very least indirect responsibility for at least two of those things I'd say they definitely deserve a turn.

Lisnaholic · 10-16-2019, 04:01 PM

^

Good point!

ziggywas · 10-17-2019, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

When you consider that Britain bears a heavy at the very least indirect responsibility for at least two of those things I'd say they definitely deserve a turn.

good point indeed.

10-16-2019, 10:22 AM	#1022 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Yes, that's one very valid take on the results, and it clearly supports the argument in favour of Brexit. Another approach is to look at the options on the table: every Brexit option is less popular than remaining. For example, if we end up with No Deal, only 23% will be happy, 57% not. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	^ Good point! __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Did you see the tweet the Leave campaign posted earlier in the week, Lisna? Be surprised if you missed it. Thought it was really poor, hopefully if anything it will have pushed some of those undecided people into choosing Remain. Though how you can still be undecided at this point I do not know.