PC or Mac?

Burning Down · 04-02-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k

It's required so you can do what exactly?

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(Another thing I have against apple, art schools just force it upon you...)

There's a college here that gives all their students such a big discount on Apple computers that they actually end up cheaper than their Windows counterparts. For students who don't have a whole lot of money, getting any computer for the lowest possible price is the best thing in the world.

s_k · 04-02-2011, 04:46 PM

Ah, they don't do that here. Here they just say 'we give classes in final cut pro'.
And this is only available for... Apple Mac OS.
FCP is almost the same as Adobe Premiere Pro. It has been developed by the same people.
Despite that, files aren't interchangable. So there you go, she bought a 3000 dollar Apple Macbook pro just so she could use Final Cut Pro... Woohoo :S.

Freebase Dali · 04-02-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k

I don't think macs are subpar. They are 'just as good'.
I just don't like the OS and I don't see justification of the price, that's all.
My macs are all very reliable.
I mean, yes there's some black sheep like the fist iMac and the first series G4 iMac.
But you won't believe how many crap PC's you can buy. Packard Bell, Acer, some Asuses...
And what about the Sony vaio? It works fine, but it costs a lot more. Design...

Oh, here's wat Jeremy Clarkson calls a Vaio "The man tried to sell me a Sony laptop with a name that has so many vowels in it, it sounds like a cat when you feed it through a mangle"

They get away with it because most people don't know enough about computers to realize that all they're buying is the comfort of a brand. And to most, paying the extra money to have a well-known logo on their PC case and some crappy proprietary software that they probably don't use, is far more appealing than actually expending the effort to learn how to decide what's actually best for themselves, instead of letting the industry dictate the terms of their expectations of a product.

I don't blame the Dells, Acers, Gateways, and all those guys. It's not their fault that they can put low-standard, low-cost hardware in a case, stamp a logo on it, and ignorant masses give them money for it. They're actually the smart ones.
They know they can charge so much for a product so inferior, so consistently, that people will consider it the norm. Quite genius, if you ask me.

s_k · 04-02-2011, 05:17 PM

I must say my experience with Dell is rather good. But then I have only owned their more expensive (business) machines.
You rarely see gateways here. Acer just sucks.
Altough I recently got an acer laptop for free at a thrift store (the guy was about to dump it there, we interrupted him) that still had two (!) 500gb hard drives and 4 (2x2)GB of Ram in it. It was a dualcore machine so that's just great. I was there with another friend so we both got one drive and 2gb of ram. But that's still great. Even altough it's an acer.
The guy who gave it to us used to own a computershop. He had an entire trailer full of **** he had to get rid of because he was moving to Germany.

This is a case of 'pics or it didn't happen'.
Well we were with the Skoda of another friend and we filled it to the brim:

Here's a picture after we emptied the car

There was the acer laptop, two Pentium IV PC's (2.4 and 2.8ghz), some spare parts of a modern age toshiba notebook, six new wireless adsl routers. There a couple of them that can be used as a file and webserver when you plug in an USB stick or USB harddrive. We're busy flashing their rom now so we can use them as such, there were two new philips surround sets. Crappy, but still nice to get for free. Sure I can make someone happy with those at some point. A nice 80's philips amplifier with a reasonably good set of speakers, a cambridge soundworks speakerset, a Yamaha MSX midi computer, a Goldstar MSX 1 computer, a box full of network cables, plugs, wallboxes, whatever. Switches, usb hubs, mouses, keyboards, new software (antivirus, nero 7), some laptop keyboards... Most of this I wouldn't buy myself, but it's great when you get it for free

Freebase Dali · 04-02-2011, 05:24 PM

What will you do when you run out of room on your continent to store all the stuff you buy/get?

s_k · 04-02-2011, 05:27 PM

Hahaha, continent

No man, I have no problems getting rid of the **** I get.
Wanna buy a PC? Pentium IV 2.8, 512MB, 40GB HD. Installed with Windows XP, runs fine, 25 dollars.

EvilChuck · 04-02-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

What will you do when you run out of room on your continent to store all the stuff you buy/get?

With global warming, the water in the ocean will surely evaporate making the sea levels lower, creating more land mass for s_k and his collection of retro technology

s_k · 04-02-2011, 05:32 PM

Actually, the top half of the netherlands is sinking.
We will soon have Tilburg at sea. And Tilburg is far from sea now

Freebase Dali · 04-02-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k

Hahaha, continent

No man, I have no problems getting rid of the **** I get.
Wanna buy a PC? Pentium IV 2.8, 512MB, 40GB HD. Installed with Windows XP, runs fine, 25 dollars.

You can probably dominate the senior citizen technological market with those specs & prices.

s_k · 04-02-2011, 05:34 PM

Haha, to be honest, if it doesn't say Fujitsu Siemens or Dell or whatever, people won't even pay 25 bucks for it. I am trying to give away a Pentium IV 2.6ghz right now. I had to clock it down because it became unstable so I'm not going to ask money for it. But no one wants it. Dammit

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I know this guy that practically gives at least a dollar for everything you give him. So it's never hard to get rid of free stuff

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04-02-2011, 04:46 PM	#212 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	Ah, they don't do that here. Here they just say 'we give classes in final cut pro'. And this is only available for... Apple Mac OS. FCP is almost the same as Adobe Premiere Pro. It has been developed by the same people. Despite that, files aren't interchangable. So there you go, she bought a 3000 dollar Apple Macbook pro just so she could use Final Cut Pro... Woohoo :S. __________________ Click here to see my collection

04-02-2011, 05:17 PM	#214 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	I must say my experience with Dell is rather good. But then I have only owned their more expensive (business) machines. You rarely see gateways here. Acer just sucks. Altough I recently got an acer laptop for free at a thrift store (the guy was about to dump it there, we interrupted him) that still had two (!) 500gb hard drives and 4 (2x2)GB of Ram in it. It was a dualcore machine so that's just great. I was there with another friend so we both got one drive and 2gb of ram. But that's still great. Even altough it's an acer. The guy who gave it to us used to own a computershop. He had an entire trailer full of **** he had to get rid of because he was moving to Germany. This is a case of 'pics or it didn't happen'. Well we were with the Skoda of another friend and we filled it to the brim: Here's a picture after we emptied the car There was the acer laptop, two Pentium IV PC's (2.4 and 2.8ghz), some spare parts of a modern age toshiba notebook, six new wireless adsl routers. There a couple of them that can be used as a file and webserver when you plug in an USB stick or USB harddrive. We're busy flashing their rom now so we can use them as such, there were two new philips surround sets. Crappy, but still nice to get for free. Sure I can make someone happy with those at some point. A nice 80's philips amplifier with a reasonably good set of speakers, a cambridge soundworks speakerset, a Yamaha MSX midi computer, a Goldstar MSX 1 computer, a box full of network cables, plugs, wallboxes, whatever. Switches, usb hubs, mouses, keyboards, new software (antivirus, nero 7), some laptop keyboards... Most of this I wouldn't buy myself, but it's great when you get it for free __________________ Click here to see my collection

04-02-2011, 05:27 PM	#216 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	Hahaha, continent No man, I have no problems getting rid of the **** I get. Wanna buy a PC? Pentium IV 2.8, 512MB, 40GB HD. Installed with Windows XP, runs fine, 25 dollars. __________________ Click here to see my collection

04-02-2011, 05:32 PM	#218 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	Actually, the top half of the netherlands is sinking. We will soon have Tilburg at sea. And Tilburg is far from sea now __________________ Click here to see my collection

04-02-2011, 05:24 PM	#215 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	What will you do when you run out of room on your continent to store all the stuff you buy/get?

04-02-2011, 05:34 PM	#220 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	Haha, to be honest, if it doesn't say Fujitsu Siemens or Dell or whatever, people won't even pay 25 bucks for it. I am trying to give away a Pentium IV 2.6ghz right now. I had to clock it down because it became unstable so I'm not going to ask money for it. But no one wants it. Dammit . I know this guy that practically gives at least a dollar for everything you give him. So it's never hard to get rid of free stuff __________________ Click here to see my collection