Rape - Whose Fault Is It?

Blarobbarg · 07-06-2013, 03:52 PM

It's interesting in the cases of men or boys being raped by other men, it's never even in consideration whether or not they were wearing something that would make them "ask for it." In the case of women, however, the first question is always, "were you wearing something that could make you a target?"

It is always, always, always the fault of the rapist. No exceptions.

Astronomer · 07-06-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Blarobbarg

It's interesting in the cases of men or boys being raped by other men, it's never even in consideration whether or not they were wearing something that would make them "ask for it." In the case of women, however, the first question is always, "were you wearing something that could make you a target?"

It is always, always, always the fault of the rapist. No exceptions.

Yes, one of society's many double standards.

Paedantic Basterd · 07-06-2013, 09:24 PM

Here's something I think could spawn further intense discussion:

When a woman is intoxicated, her word is not to be taken as consent. When a man and a woman are intoxicated, the responsibility falls on the man. Should or shouldn't dual-intoxication cancel actions out? Why or why not?

CanwllCorfe · 07-06-2013, 09:25 PM

It's weird when the clothing comes into question, because from what I've heard on a lot of crime shows and all that stuff, rape almost always seems to be more about dominance and power than about sex. So I'd think it'd be more of a matter of the woman being vulnerable than looking "sexy", per se, but who knows. I certainly don't. I actually think I remember Oprah saying something along those lines when she was talking about her own personal experience. I think she said, "It's not about sex. It's about power." That was the first time I ever heard that before. I always thought they were committed by horny guys that can't control themselves. Of course, I'm sure there are plenty of occasions that are like that, but I'd think if a woman clearly wanted to stop that they'd stop. I'd think there would always have to be some kind of underlying want of dominance, or affinity for sadism.

zombie kid · 07-06-2013, 10:00 PM

I want to know who voted YES and why aren't they saying anything? Is it just trolls?

djchameleon · 07-06-2013, 10:19 PM

The people that voted yes, just did so out of spite and to go against the norm.

Also most likely just to troll as well.

I know I did that in the other poll about women being funny. I voted No just for shits and giggles but I don't honestly believe that.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 07-06-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

The people that voted yes, just did so out of spite and to go against the norm.

Also most likely just to troll as well.

I know I did that in the other poll about women being funny. I voted No just for shits and giggles but I don't honestly believe that.

I'm the funniest bitch u know

djchameleon · 07-06-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione

I'm the funniest bitch u know

debatable.

I think Stephs got you beat. Sorry :P

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 07-06-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

debatable.

I think Stephs got you beat. Sorry :P

Steph's a woman
I'm not

GOT U THERE

djchameleon · 07-06-2013, 10:26 PM

Boo with your trick questions!

Flee from my presence plus I'm just waking up from a nap not too long ago.

View Poll Results: Can you blame the victim for getting raped when raping someone is illegal?
Yes	7	13.73%
No	44	86.27%
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Blarobbarg Do good. Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 2,065	It's interesting in the cases of men or boys being raped by other men, it's never even in consideration whether or not they were wearing something that would make them "ask for it." In the case of women, however, the first question is always, "were you wearing something that could make you a target?" It is always, always, always the fault of the rapist. No exceptions. __________________ https://rateyourmusic.com/~Blarobbarg ｡･::･ﾟ★,｡･::･ﾟ☆　^my RYM^　｡･::･ﾟ★,｡･::･ﾟ☆ (◠‿◠✿)

07-06-2013, 09:25 PM	#54 (permalink)
CanwllCorfe Quiet Man in the Corner Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pocono Mountains Posts: 2,480	It's weird when the clothing comes into question, because from what I've heard on a lot of crime shows and all that stuff, rape almost always seems to be more about dominance and power than about sex. So I'd think it'd be more of a matter of the woman being vulnerable than looking "sexy", per se, but who knows. I certainly don't. I actually think I remember Oprah saying something along those lines when she was talking about her own personal experience. I think she said, "It's not about sex. It's about power." That was the first time I ever heard that before. I always thought they were committed by horny guys that can't control themselves. Of course, I'm sure there are plenty of occasions that are like that, but I'd think if a woman clearly wanted to stop that they'd stop. I'd think there would always have to be some kind of underlying want of dominance, or affinity for sadism. __________________ Your eyes were never yet let in to see the majesty and riches of the mind, but dwell in darkness; for your God is blind.

07-06-2013, 09:24 PM	#53 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Here's something I think could spawn further intense discussion: When a woman is intoxicated, her word is not to be taken as consent. When a man and a woman are intoxicated, the responsibility falls on the man. Should or shouldn't dual-intoxication cancel actions out? Why or why not?

07-06-2013, 10:00 PM	#55 (permalink)
zombie kid Music Addict Join Date: May 2013 Location: in a grave. Posts: 77	I want to know who voted YES and why aren't they saying anything? Is it just trolls?