Why don't the current mainstream pop stars care about social issues?

Black Francis · 03-02-2015, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

But it sold it the 70s, 80s, and 90's, why cant it sell today?

Cause nowadays is all about the beat not really the content anymore..

Ive noticed the most popular parts that ppl sing out in modern pop songs is the most dumb downed part of the song that either has no lyrics and it's just a vowel chorus or it's sh*t like 'oppa ganman style' or 'Turn down for what' stuff that doesn't really mean anything but it sounds nice with a sick beat.

But still, even today you got artist like andrew jackson jihad who is like a modern Bob dylan of sorts and he's super popular.

~~James~~ · 03-03-2015, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

That song was a forced song and was unconvincing. Beyonce is fake. After what she did with Ledisi I realize she is nothing but a phony and a spot light hogger.

It's still undeniably about a social issue. It doesn't matter how sincere you think it is. Once again you are letting your own bias get in the way. Your opinions on an artist don't dictate the meaning of their songs.

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

The reason why I said that is because it really was not about a "social issue" and was more about the singer which is why it didn't seem genuine.

I don't think that was a good example.

More about the singer? Horse ****. That song is about as blatant and ham-fisted as these kind of songs can be. I mean 'perfection is a disease of a nation'? That's specifically shifting the song's themes from the personal to the universal.

If you're just going to claim people's suggestions 'don't count' in order to validate your opinions on this, why are we even bothering? All of your threads are like this.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-03-2015, 05:47 AM

Because they're not signed to record companies anymore.

They're signed to multi national conglomerates who have interests in the music business.

There's a big difference between the two.

Chula Vista · 03-03-2015, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by James

All of your threads are like this.

Beginning to see that. World class goal post mover.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Because they're not signed to record companies anymore. They're signed to multi national conglomerates who have interests in the music business.

There's a big difference between the two.

Not to mention Clear Channel. You put out too controversial a song and they won't touch it. Which means you miss out on airplay throughout most of the US.

~~Soulflower~~ · 03-03-2015, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by James

It's still undeniably about a social issue. It doesn't matter how sincere you think it is. Once again you are letting your own bias get in the way. Your opinions on an artist don't dictate the meaning of their songs.

More about the singer? Horse ****. That song is about as blatant and ham-fisted as these kind of songs can be. I mean 'perfection is a disease of a nation'? That's specifically shifting the song's themes from the personal to the universal.

If you're just going to claim people's suggestions 'don't count' in order to validate your opinions on this, why are we even bothering? All of your threads are like this.

James I think you are a little on the naive side if you think that song reflects social issues.

I look at the artist and the sincerity behind the music because that is important as well.

I care about your opinion but that doesn't mean I have to agree.

Its a discussion board.

Zer0 · 03-03-2015, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

But it sold it the 70s, 80s, and 90's, why cant it sell today?

They do.

Charity record - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As you can see quite a lot of these went to number one.

~~James~~ · 03-03-2015, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower

James I think you are a little on the naive side if you think that song reflects social issues.

I look at the artist and the sincerity behind the music because that is important as well.

I care about your opinion but that doesn't mean I have to agree.

Its a discussion board.

This is actually a fair response, I wish your posts were like this more often. Maybe I am a little naive. Though I'm still sure in my opinion. Are you more getting at the idea that these themes just aren't addressed to the same quality anymore? Because that's a whole other question.

~~Soulflower~~ · 03-03-2015, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by James

This is actually a fair response, I wish your posts were like this more often. Maybe I am a little naive. Though I'm still sure in my opinion. Are you more getting at the idea that these themes just aren't addressed to the same quality anymore? Because that's a whole other question.

Well these themes are not really discussed at all in the mainstream.

Aux-In · 03-04-2015, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

They talk about it via Twitter these days.

Chula speaks truth. It's kind of like off-shoring your outrage from music onto Twitter, Facebook, or whatever the next big thing is. Those types of mediums didn't exist back then, so the only way to get a message out was through music, TV, books and so on. Social issues are talked about all the time, and the media makes double sure of that. Actually, listening to music for me is a great getaway from all the fake outrage that goes around these days.

~~Soulflower~~ · 03-04-2015, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aux-in

Chula speaks truth. It's kind of like off-shoring your outrage from music onto Twitter, Facebook, or whatever the next big thing is. Those types of mediums didn't exist back then, so the only way to get a message out was through music, TV, books and so on. Social issues are talked about all the time, and the media makes double sure of that. Actually, listening to music for me is a great getaway from all the fake outrage that goes around these days.

Why can't music also be used as a tool to influence others or bring awareness to an issue?

I know social issues is talked about but why can't it be talked about in music anymore?

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