Love or Hate?

Trollheart · 12-29-2015, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I was talking to Mr. Heart. You're fine. **** him though.

**** you right back. Don't you even take a break for Christmas, ya poxy grinch?

I took the genre tags from Discogs, who I assume know more about it than I do. Sorry for not being perfect like you. I'll go kill myself now. And then you'll be sorry!**

** (He won't be sorry)....

Trollheart · 12-29-2015, 01:23 PM

Title: Abnormally Attracted to Sin
Artiste: Tori Amos
Genre: Pop
Familiarity: I've heard the odd song. Always felt she was a little Kate Bush-lite
Recommended by: MicShazam

Expectations: Really not sure. Hope this album can change the view I hold of her as outlined above. Interesting to be getting the very first of MicShazam's recs...

1. Give: Very dark, ominous start. The Bush comparisons are very hard to ignore even from the off though. Sort of sounds a little 90s Marillion too. Slow, menacing, broody.
2. Welcome to England: Slightly more uptempo, bright piano that also turns dark at times.
3. Strong black vine: Like the orchestral opening, again quite dark and unsettling.
4. Flavor: Very minimal, ticking percussion, a slow song with creeping menace in it.
5. Not dying today: First real uptempo song, reminds me of the more exuberant moments of Peter Gabriel. Kind of tribal drums
6. Maybe California: Very moving ballad, lovely orchestral work and beautiful piano. It's just too much like a Kate Bush song though, and if I heard this outside of the album I would think it was her.
7. Curtain call: Song's okay, nice piano line, but somehow this one isn't engaging me at all.
8. Fire to your pain: More uptempo this time, with some peppy keys but I'm beginning to care less.
9. Police me: Ok just bored now.
10. That guy: This has at least something interesting about it. Mediterranean feel with some pizzicato strings and a lush keyboard sound. Sounds like it might have been used in a movie, though it probably wasn't.
11. Abnormally attracted to sin: And I'm back to not caring
12. 500 miles: There are too many tracks on this...
13. Mary Jane: This is a lovely piano piece, but again, the K word...
14. Starling: ... for an album that ...
15. Fast horse:...sucks so hard
16. Ophelia:Ok this is lovely. It's just that there are only a few nuggets in among all the rest of these turds. Gorgeous rolling piano and a nice vocal. I feel it sounds quite like The Eurythmics' “Julia”, but I'm pretty sure that's just me.
17. Lady in blue: This one is good as well, a very decent closer; broody and a bit mysterious. Actually no it's ****ing excellent, and ends the album strongly particularly with that crazy guitar solo. But too little too late I fear.

End result: Overall, it's been a long time since I've been so bored with an album. Deadmau5 and The Microphones I hated, but with this I was just praying for it to end. And seventeen tracks! Look, if I want to hear a Kate Bush album I'll listen to Lionheart or The Red Shoes. This doesn't even come close. I don't know; I was disappointed with YD's album and now this. Is a new worrying trend developing? Save me , Batty!

So, Love or Hate? It's a very solid Meh for this.

The Batlord · 12-29-2015, 01:27 PM

It's after Christmas, though.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-29-2015, 01:31 PM

@Trollheart
Actually, I'm just pleased that you liked a few of the songs - didn't expect you to love it like I do

I admit Tori has acquired a nasty habit of making some very long albums over the last several years. One of my few good personality traits is that I have a deep pool of patience to draw from, so that doesn't bother me in the slightest.
I'm still chewing on the musical she published earlier this year. It is 2 hours long... Ok, so that's a bit much, but I've been taking it one disc at a time so it's ok. I just choose to se it as two albums.

I love Kate Bush and get the comparison - I really do! I just somehow like Tori Amos' albums a lot, especially the more recent ones. Night of Hunters was pretty much album of the year 2011 for me. She seems to bore most people to tears though.

~~MicShazam~~ · 12-29-2015, 01:55 PM

Also, I'll try and make my next rec a little more interesting

Trollheart · 12-29-2015, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It's after Christmas, though.

Not till the sixth of January, man. Keep those Christmas decorations up!

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

@Trollheart
Actually, I'm just pleased that you liked a few of the songs - didn't expect you to love it like I do

I admit Tori has acquired a nasty habit of making some very long albums over the last several years. One of my few good personality traits is that I have a deep pool of patience to draw from, so that doesn't bother me in the slightest.
I'm still chewing on the musical she published earlier this year. It is 2 hours long... Ok, so that's a bit much, but I've been taking it one disc at a time so it's ok. I just choose to se it as two albums.

I love Kate Bush and get the comparison - I really do! I just somehow like Tori Amos' albums a lot, especially the more recent ones. Night of Hunters was pretty much album of the year 2011 for me. She seems to bore most people to tears though.

I kind of got what I was expecting. It wasn't terrible but I just found it hard to maintain my interest all through.

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Also, I'll try and make my next rec a little more interesting

Don't worry about it; I've had some terrible albums thrown at me in this thread. This is nowhere close to as bad as some.

The Batlord · 12-29-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Not till the sixth of January, man. Keep those Christmas decorations up!

Learn 2 Xmas.

Trollheart · 12-30-2015, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Learn 2 Xmas.

Learn to Irish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Christmas

Trollheart · 12-30-2015, 03:24 PM

Title: The Great Misdirect
Artiste: Between the Buried and Me
Genre: Progressive Metal/Technical Death Metal
Familiarity: Zero
Recommended by: The Batlord

Expectations: It's prog metal, and it's Batty so I'm hopeful. Mind you, there's that Technical Death Metal tag to concern me. I see there are some very long tracks on it, even though there are only a total of six in all on the album.

1. Mirrors: Starts off nice and relaxed, very slow to come in initially, then a nice reflective guitar. Short one, instrumental I assume.
2. Obfuscation:Now I guess the Technical Death Metal thing is kicking in as we get a growly roared vocal, but it's still pretty good and there is some excellent playing here, much of which I would definitely classify as progressive metal.
3. Disease, injury, madness: Pretty frenetic at the start (certainly puts the death metal into technical death metal!) but then slows down after a few minutes to a much more sedate pace with some very introspective guitar and a much softer vocal. Jumps back to the harder style and then goes into an amazing boogie with guitar and organ that sort of reminds me of the midsection of “Money” by Floyd. So many changes of tempo, rhythm etc here. Now we're in a blues guitar etude.
4. Fossil genera --- a feed from Cloud Mountain: Starting on a crazy little honky-tonk piano, then heavy guitar blasts it but it's still there and the song goes into an odd little swing style. This is another long one, so I expect it to change quite a bit over its twelve-minute run. And it certainly does, veering from death metal to progressive and back. Excellent.
5. Desert of song: Shorter one, acoustic ballad, really nice.
6. Swim to the moon: Now this is what I call progressive metal, and I don't just mean because it's almost eighteen minutes long and has a huge instrumental intro! Bit too death metally for my liking, but sounds like they threw some fiddle in there later! Some great solos, very powerful. Great track.

End result: A really great mix of progressive and death metal, and despite the sometimes harsh vocal, some amazing musicianship. Really great album, thoroughly enjoyed it. Batty saves the day once again!

So, Love or Hate? A thorough case of Love here.

The Batlord · 12-30-2015, 03:34 PM

Wasn't sure you'd like that one, but I'm glad you did. I'd stay away from their earlier albums, as they're somewhat close to that Converge album you hated so much, but from their Colors album and on you'd love them if you dig this album.

And stop using Wikipedia to figure out what genre an artist is. BtBaM are not a tech death band. They are progressive metalcore/mathcore. Start using RYM instead. They are usually more on the mark than Wiki.

12-29-2015, 01:23 PM	#2442 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Title: Abnormally Attracted to Sin Artiste: Tori Amos Genre: Pop Familiarity: I've heard the odd song. Always felt she was a little Kate Bush-lite Recommended by: MicShazam Expectations: Really not sure. Hope this album can change the view I hold of her as outlined above. Interesting to be getting the very first of MicShazam's recs... 1. Give: Very dark, ominous start. The Bush comparisons are very hard to ignore even from the off though. Sort of sounds a little 90s Marillion too. Slow, menacing, broody. 2. Welcome to England: Slightly more uptempo, bright piano that also turns dark at times. 3. Strong black vine: Like the orchestral opening, again quite dark and unsettling. 4. Flavor: Very minimal, ticking percussion, a slow song with creeping menace in it. 5. Not dying today: First real uptempo song, reminds me of the more exuberant moments of Peter Gabriel. Kind of tribal drums 6. Maybe California: Very moving ballad, lovely orchestral work and beautiful piano. It's just too much like a Kate Bush song though, and if I heard this outside of the album I would think it was her. 7. Curtain call: Song's okay, nice piano line, but somehow this one isn't engaging me at all. 8. Fire to your pain: More uptempo this time, with some peppy keys but I'm beginning to care less. 9. Police me: Ok just bored now. 10. That guy: This has at least something interesting about it. Mediterranean feel with some pizzicato strings and a lush keyboard sound. Sounds like it might have been used in a movie, though it probably wasn't. 11. Abnormally attracted to sin: And I'm back to not caring 12. 500 miles: There are too many tracks on this... 13. Mary Jane: This is a lovely piano piece, but again, the K word... 14. Starling: ... for an album that ... 15. Fast horse:...sucks so hard 16. Ophelia:Ok this is lovely. It's just that there are only a few nuggets in among all the rest of these turds. Gorgeous rolling piano and a nice vocal. I feel it sounds quite like The Eurythmics' “Julia”, but I'm pretty sure that's just me. 17. Lady in blue: This one is good as well, a very decent closer; broody and a bit mysterious. Actually no it's **ing excellent, and ends the album strongly particularly with that crazy guitar solo. But too little too late I fear. End result:** Overall, it's been a long time since I've been so bored with an album. Deadmau5 and The Microphones I hated, but with this I was just praying for it to end. And seventeen tracks! Look, if I want to hear a Kate Bush album I'll listen to Lionheart or The Red Shoes. This doesn't even come close. I don't know; I was disappointed with YD's album and now this. Is a new worrying trend developing? Save me , Batty! So, Love or Hate? It's a very solid Meh for this. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

12-30-2015, 03:24 PM	#2449 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Title: The Great Misdirect Artiste: Between the Buried and Me Genre: Progressive Metal/Technical Death Metal Familiarity: Zero Recommended by: The Batlord Expectations: It's prog metal, and it's Batty so I'm hopeful. Mind you, there's that Technical Death Metal tag to concern me. I see there are some very long tracks on it, even though there are only a total of six in all on the album. 1. Mirrors: Starts off nice and relaxed, very slow to come in initially, then a nice reflective guitar. Short one, instrumental I assume. 2. Obfuscation:Now I guess the Technical Death Metal thing is kicking in as we get a growly roared vocal, but it's still pretty good and there is some excellent playing here, much of which I would definitely classify as progressive metal. 3. Disease, injury, madness: Pretty frenetic at the start (certainly puts the death metal into technical death metal!) but then slows down after a few minutes to a much more sedate pace with some very introspective guitar and a much softer vocal. Jumps back to the harder style and then goes into an amazing boogie with guitar and organ that sort of reminds me of the midsection of “Money” by Floyd. So many changes of tempo, rhythm etc here. Now we're in a blues guitar etude. 4. Fossil genera --- a feed from Cloud Mountain: Starting on a crazy little honky-tonk piano, then heavy guitar blasts it but it's still there and the song goes into an odd little swing style. This is another long one, so I expect it to change quite a bit over its twelve-minute run. And it certainly does, veering from death metal to progressive and back. Excellent. 5. Desert of song: Shorter one, acoustic ballad, really nice. 6. Swim to the moon: Now this is what I call progressive metal, and I don't just mean because it's almost eighteen minutes long and has a huge instrumental intro! Bit too death metally for my liking, but sounds like they threw some fiddle in there later! Some great solos, very powerful. Great track. End result: A really great mix of progressive and death metal, and despite the sometimes harsh vocal, some amazing musicianship. Really great album, thoroughly enjoyed it. Batty saves the day once again! So, Love or Hate? A thorough case of Love here. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

12-29-2015, 01:31 PM	#2444 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,636	@Trollheart Actually, I'm just pleased that you liked a few of the songs - didn't expect you to love it like I do I admit Tori has acquired a nasty habit of making some very long albums over the last several years. One of my few good personality traits is that I have a deep pool of patience to draw from, so that doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm still chewing on the musical she published earlier this year. It is 2 hours long... Ok, so that's a bit much, but I've been taking it one disc at a time so it's ok. I just choose to se it as two albums. I love Kate Bush and get the comparison - I really do! I just somehow like Tori Amos' albums a lot, especially the more recent ones. Night of Hunters was pretty much album of the year 2011 for me. She seems to bore most people to tears though.

12-29-2015, 01:55 PM	#2445 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,636	Also, I'll try and make my next rec a little more interesting