Oriphiel, let's discuss 2001: A Space Odyssey

Chula Vista · 07-12-2017, 11:41 AM

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Trollheart · 07-12-2017, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I mean, despite the lack of exposition, it is pretty simple and straightforward tbh. I'm biased because I've understood the movie from a young age (don't really remember if I had help or not, probably a combo of conversation with my uncle and my own brain). The transition between ape and man is a pretty loud hint at the themes imo.

And yes the idea is that the signals are pushing humans along.

Like I said, I got it up to the wormhole (which I did not realise was a wormhole). After that I was lost.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

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Chula Vista · 07-12-2017, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Like I said, I got it up to the wormhole (which I did not realise was a wormhole). After that I was lost.

You really should read the novel. The wormhole part is not just a feaky light show like in the movie. Bowman sees all kinds of stuff during his journey.

Mondo Bungle · 07-12-2017, 09:09 PM

Movies really are a visual experience

Go smoke like 4 joints and watch it

Trollheart · 07-13-2017, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

You really should read the novel. The wormhole part is not just a feaky light show like in the movie. Bowman sees all kinds of stuff during his journey.

I might do. I read some Clarke when I was younger though and found it very dry and boring. Can't remember what: Rendezvous with Rama, maybe? Not sure.

Trollheart · 07-13-2017, 02:57 PM

Oh, one other point: it always seemed to me that the monolith was not showing the emerging humans how to use tools, but weapons, and that, as such, the aliens then sped up our evolution along lines of conflict and eventually tribal wars, murder and destruction, rather than a peaceful co-existence. Maybe I got that wrong? Is it possible, though, that the aliens knew that without conflict Man would never become ambitious or powerful enough to make it to the stars?

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