Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
06-22-2014, 10:20 PM
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
06-22-2014, 03:50 PM
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
06-21-2014, 09:13 PM
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
06-21-2014, 08:59 PM
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hopefully it also liberates them from the...
hopefully it also liberates them from the shackles of sea world.
anyway that's a fair point, though it's easy for westerners to not want to slaughter whales and dolphins cause we don't really eat...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
06-21-2014, 08:37 PM
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that's true. but it's not a scientific...
that's true. but it's not a scientific distinction we're making, it's just a judgement call. like the age of consent.
edit - also, i think it's a little trickier than consciousness vs...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
06-21-2014, 08:00 PM
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
06-21-2014, 01:15 PM
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
11-09-2013, 09:39 PM
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-30-2013, 12:50 PM
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I don't disagree about morality's evolutionary...
I don't disagree about morality's evolutionary origins, but like Richard Dawkins I believe that a society which based its morality strictly on evolutionary concerns would be a pretty nasty place to...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-30-2013, 03:14 AM
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Strictly speaking, "thou shalt not kill" as a...
Strictly speaking, "thou shalt not kill" as a moral principle is invalidated by the examples you provided. Actually, it's also invalidated by much simpler examples like war or execution. Clearly...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-29-2013, 11:41 PM
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My objection from the beginning has been that...
My objection from the beginning has been that you're failing to establish a serious moral distinction between killing a human fetus vs killing any other human. In other words, I'm saying that whether...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-23-2013, 11:40 PM
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...which is based on the premise that suffering...
...which is based on the premise that suffering is the reason killing is wrong. Otherwise it is irrelevant who potentially suffers the most. So I was giving examples of why I don't think that adds up...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-21-2013, 02:14 AM
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-20-2013, 02:44 AM
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Neither do I. The question is whether their...
Neither do I. The question is whether their actions are justifiable or even 'right' based on utilitarian logic.
Our fitness is dependent on certain people. We also compete with other people. It...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-20-2013, 12:03 AM
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Your utilitarian answer sort of ignores the...
Your utilitarian answer sort of ignores the question: I said the death would be painless, quick and unexpected. The loner/homeless person wouldn't have time to suffer. You mentioned that you would...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-19-2013, 04:03 PM
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So theoretically speaking, if you were to kill...
So theoretically speaking, if you were to kill someone in that way who was a loner with no connections then there's nothing wrong with that as long as nobody finds out.
So then if someone is in a...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-19-2013, 11:40 AM
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Good point, but I honestly don't think that the...
Good point, but I honestly don't think that the capacity for suffering works as a consistent criteria either. Would it be alright to kill somebody if the death was quick, painless and unexpected? If...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-19-2013, 03:12 AM
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-19-2013, 01:32 AM
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I was just poking fun at the dishonest...
I was just poking fun at the dishonest euphemisms.
The pragmatist in me leans towards being in favor of abortion simply because I feel like the more control that people have over when they...
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Forum: Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
07-19-2013, 12:44 AM
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