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Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-30-2021, 08:17 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Cool. We'll keep you busy for awhile.

Cool. We'll keep you busy for awhile.
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-30-2021, 08:15 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Okay. Sure. I'd be more likely to...

Okay.



Sure. I'd be more likely to start it if I know someone is actually interested enough to participate though (without just being snarky--which isn't about you, just my general experience...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-30-2021, 08:09 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Communicating with someone where you don't care...

Communicating with someone where you don't care what their views are. That's brilliant.
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-30-2021, 07:43 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Communication doesn't work via literally knowing...

Communication doesn't work via literally knowing someone's meaning, intent, etc.

You don't think that I'd have the views I do but not be able to account for how communication works, do you?
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-30-2021, 06:26 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Odds on whether I expected you to actually...

Odds on whether I expected you to actually provide an explanation of how you believe it works?
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-30-2021, 05:31 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
So explain how you believe it works. We...

So explain how you believe it works.


We can do a semantics (philosophy of meaning) thread if you like, and I'll explain how meaning does and doesn't work for you, where you can argue with me all...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 01:07 PM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
I'm not literally reading his intention, etc. The...

I'm not literally reading his intention, etc. The reason I said that is that what he's saying isn't actually in what we're talking about. So it must be coming from somewhere. I'm simply assuming that...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 12:37 PM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
As I said, he seemed to be projecting. So we...

As I said, he seemed to be projecting.

So we can know by assuming that he has views that he never expressed and then reading our own views into it?
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 12:31 PM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
I think you're rather projecting.

I think you're rather projecting.
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 12:25 PM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Sure, so in your view how would we know whether...

Sure, so in your view how would we know whether it's using the term in a derogatory way?
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 12:19 PM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
The paragraph about the double standard was...

The paragraph about the double standard was talking about one of the Mothers. Who, we don't know. The next paragraph says that Zappa "didn't see her point of view," and she specifically gives the...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 12:04 PM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
What in the world would count as a "meaningful...

What in the world would count as a "meaningful way" to you?
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 11:57 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
You were responding to a post of mine that said,...

You were responding to a post of mine that said, "Zappa didn't find it negative or problematic or anything that men and women enjoyed sex."

So how would we be talking about a double standard,...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 11:52 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
I'm explaining how the reaction against "Love me...

I'm explaining how the reaction against "Love me less, respect me more" indicates nothing about value judgments of sluttiness.
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 11:45 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
I have no idea. Probably only he and Gail knew...

I have no idea. Probably only he and Gail knew for sure. And they're no longer around to tell us.



I'm a relativist, genius.
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 11:36 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
"Enjoying sex" doesn't mean "only in a...

"Enjoying sex" doesn't mean "only in a traditional monogamous relationship" if we're talking about Zappa. He's not a Puritan like you folks seem to be.



I have a completely positive view of...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 11:18 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
First, all meaning is subjective period. But this...

First, all meaning is subjective period. But this seems bizarre to say. Zappa didn't seem to associate a negative connotation at all to the word "slut." I don't associate a negative connotation to...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 10:54 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Meaning is subjective. It depends on what an...

Meaning is subjective. It depends on what an individual has in mind, how the individual is thinking about the term in question. There's no necessary way to think about a term, positive, negative, or...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 06:33 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Gee, and here I was ready to invest in your...

Gee, and here I was ready to invest in your business.
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 06:28 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
There goes that crap reading comprehension again....

There goes that crap reading comprehension again. How is anyone supposed to be persuaded by your hermeneutic abilities (for issues like this) when you continually show such rudimentary reading...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 06:24 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Then you should probably use the closer word in...

Then you should probably use the closer word in the first place. Unless you're trying to be imprecise for some reason?
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 06:14 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
It's rather an unwillingness to conform to...

It's rather an unwillingness to conform to mistaken beliefs.



Sure. In a place where it didn't fit unless you didn't understand it or any of the surrounding context. Hence crap reading...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 06:01 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
"I'm viewing the lyrics within the context of a...

"I'm viewing the lyrics within the context of a misogynistic and sexist culture"--which is something I don't agree with; I don't agree that we have a (generally) misogynistic and sexist culture. It's...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 05:49 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
Good reading comprehension. I wish I could say...

Good reading comprehension. I wish I could say I'm surprised.


What I said was that if Zappa's lyrics are misogynistic then I must not understand what someone has in mind by misogynistic. Because...
Forum: Prog & Psychedelic Rock 08-29-2021, 05:39 AM
Replies: 508
Views: 49,426
Posted By Terrapin_Station
If it were something I were doing, sure I'd think...

If it were something I were doing, sure I'd think that.

Again, very easy to answer a question.

We're "diverting the narrative" from what, exactly?

It can be difficult to answer a question if...
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