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Originally Posted by djchameleon
Do Atheists consider themselves a religion? that just seems like an oxymoron to me.
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In my experience a lot of atheists tend to be pretty evasive about that. The ones I've talked to online (which maybe don't represent the core of atheism and are probably just angry 12 year olds) tend to go by the rule of, while they're telling you how bad religion is, atheism is not a religion or group of any sort, it's just the name "given to them" like infidel or heathen.
But outside of the discussion/in another discussion, those same people argue atheism deserves as much respect as any religion because the choice of "non-belief" (in what tends to be specifically the Abrahamic Faiths) is in itself, apparently a belief and a group. It's hypocrisy.
I think it's stupid. If you truly don't believe in any religion, then there is no relevant word or group you're a part of, religiously speaking. Where you'd write "place your religion here" you'd leave a blank space surely.
That's why generally speaking I don't like atheism, don't respect it. If someone choose not to believe in a religion, or for that matter ANY religion, or God at all, then fine I respect that that's their choice.
But not atheism - atheism to me, equals anti-belief, and nothing in it's own right. I think atheism is arguably the way of the anti-christ, the false messiah, the serpent.
It's completely different from not-believing. People have crisis of faith, people choose not to believe, thats up to them, its not anti- anything it's just the way they go.
But to devote yourself to being ANTI- anything, well then, you cant go and ask for respect from those people. And thats what atheism is imo - anti-religion.
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Originally Posted by Schranz bass
So, am I to understand from this that you don't have your own ideology? or morals? or purpose? and that Judaism provides the nonsensical, reward-punishment way of life for you to follow so that you can think less?
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lmao how did you get that from what geddybass said? Do you think people just pull morals and belief and purpose out of their arse? Unless you've been alive for 10,000 years you can't in any way present a personal moral structure that could rival that which the Abrahamic faiths are built on.
I don't want to speak for her, I'm sure she'll answer you, but personally speaking, my religion is the foundation for my morals and purpose. I build on it, adapt it as I see fit and try utmost to do what I believe is right, and live my life like that. I'm sure that's what a lot of people do, maybe I'm flawed in my execution but if so I'll learn from it. That hardly equates to thinking less.
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Lepanto, October 7, 1571
My mummy taught me how to express the good, compassionate boy innate in me.
Don't most Turkish people 'believe' that humans once lived with dinosaurs?
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Lepanto wut? Try 29 May 1453 Istanbul when we pulled our ships over the hills with the chains and ****ed the Romans out of our land. Try Gallipoli 1916 when we defended the border against the United forces of the entire western "civilization". The Ottoman Empire was alive and well until the end of WWI. You think one defeat is anything against the entire campaign and History of the Turks? Turks are still alive and strong. If all the Turkic states formed a Union, as is likely will happen, they'll be a World superpower. USA know that, that's why they're scared.
All of those in both shades of blue there. Imo that'll be one of the sides in the next World War.
You can't keep a Turk down. So he loses a battle, well he wins the ****ing war, my friend.
Your mummy who? Dinosaurs wtf?
Are you ****in retarded man, you wanna outright racially insult me, my Blood Homeland, my People? No we do not believe people lived with dinosaurs. Gtfo you ignorant dikhead.
Man you're jealous cos I know my roots. Go learn your own, that's all I can say.