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Old 05-01-2011, 10:55 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman View Post
Because the only reason he's saying that is to appease two groups:

1. Religious nut cases who will call him the devil if he doesn't spew the typical presidential religious slogans.

2. Retarded voters who romanticize the presidency and are only looking to get the disney experience out of the speeches. He would say anything if it increased his chances of getting the votes of these sorry idiots.

In the end, these slogans are left over from a time when the USA was taken over by a bunch of people who engraved christianity into every aspect of government representation. The USA pulls its constitutional queues from the Napoleonic French. Napoleon created a french republic and made it secular. The reason he made it secular was because before that the monarchy used religion to validate its power. By secularization he removed the power invested into the royalty by the roman catholic church and eventually was recognized by the pope as a legitimate power.

Long story short, the USA is secular because they saw how religion can be used to validate invalid power. They learned a lesson from the French, and because they left the British Empire for a reason, they instilled that lesson in their constitution. They also did this because many of them were deists.. and perhaps they were deists for the latter reasons. THE POINT - THE USA IS SECULAR. And saying otherwise is a slap in the face to everyone who pays taxes, and lives in the USA, and expects equal treatment regardless of whether they believe in God they want representation in those speeches.

These stupid 50s slogans alienate hundreds of thousands. And just because we aren't the majority, doesn't mean that we have to bow to these stupid blows from the right wing and outdated tradition.

Answer your question?
It proved my fears. These, and I think many share your position, is a feeling. It isn't necessarily true. We're secular for a great many reasons. We don't oppress peoples religious views - as many other nations have. We have no national religion - as many other nations have and force you to pay tithes and taxes to.

Don't misconstrue "secular" as anti-religious.
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