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Originally Posted by matious
I don't think your factoring in the time period enough when comparing these two. Kurt didn't use mediums to promote himself like artists these days, he just wrote a really, really good pop song.
Lady gaga has staff tweeting, facebooking, website making, emailing, live streaming, recording every ****ing thing she does 24/7
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Well, then, Kurt Cobain's 'staff' has probably been doing so from beyond the grave. I have people STILL hocking 'I love Cobain' shirts.
Regardless, I don't know how to disagree any further with his videos not being a major factor. Because they were THE factor that sold him. Not to say his music was bad, but it was overhyped.
Furthermore, Cobain could have still not answered to threats of firing people he 'liked'. He's not heroic for that.
Now, as for the Gaga fad. I agree, it's far. In fact, it's incredibly dangerous. Especially for the incredibly impressionable group who are so extreme that she is their lives. Factually, they're not out there, but they're probably out there in the thousands. It shelters them from an alternate world, and is extremely exploitive. Her manipulation of technological mediums sadly give her more power than one would think.
Gaga is an 80s dystopian cyberpunk writer's wet dream, and to think that one decade removed HBO's focus was on George Carlin standups, and now is on Gaga concerts speaks volumes of the cultural devolution of our society.
I feel that some may see it as a nuisance, but I honestly feel Gaga is an insult to basic human logic, and philosophy as a whole. However, the stigma of Nirvana, whether it's Kurt Cobain's fault or not, is almost as damaging.
I just wish sometimes people would step back a bit, and realise how out of hand this hero worship stuff actually gets, and exactly how disturbed I am that one person writes a handful of mediocre, dated, uninteresting pop songs, and explodes to such a huge size that he or she completely overshadows the artform. To the point she has an army of people who seemingly mold their entire life around everything she says, as if she's the second coming(and oh... as if she's not proliferating 'hints' at this possibility).
My obsession is a cry to logic, if anything. I don't want people to feel as if I'm bullying, trolling, or just being an ignorant ass. I think there's a very deep philosophical dilemma that Gaga brings to our culture, and it's only fair that it's brought to the table from an uncensored perspective.
That's all.
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan
Sounds like a plot exposition in some sci-fi/horror movie.
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lol, ironically you posted this while I was ranting about it, and used the phrase 'cyberpunk writer's wet dream'.