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Old 05-22-2011, 11:18 AM   #526 (permalink)
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Interesting take on the three, but there are a number of aspects I`d raise though.

Doom- I actually think this is the easiest to define, its the slowest of the three and draws its line of descent directly from Black Sabbath and its the least varied of the three. Typical bands are Electric Wizard, Cathedral, Candlemass and American bands Pentagram and Saint Vitus (both of these groups are not as heavy though, probably to do with the fact that they were formed in the 70`s).
I think Doom is only easy to define if you stick to older style bands like Cathedral, St. Vitus, etc.. But when you consider it's multiple subgenres Doom is the most varied of the three. I mean Stoner Doom, Funeral Doom and Drone Doom are all pretty different from each other.

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Sludge- My fav of the three largely due to its influences from southern rock, blues etc and as said there is also a hardcore element typical in some of the bands like Crowbar. Typical bands are Corrosion of Conformity, Eyehategod, Down and of course the Melvins the best band, despite having a highly experimental edge.
It's interesting, you're looking at Sludge from a totally different angle from me. I don't disagree with the bands you've picked as examples but I think of them as on the Stoner edge of Sludge. When I think of Sludge the first bands that come to mind are the likes of Iron Monkey or Noothgrush.

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Stoner- Again covers a wide field and along with blues influences, the psychedelic element is very evident, without doubt not as slow as the other two genres and bands in this genre can also be described as stoner rock such as Monster Magnet or desert rock, I`d also say that bands like Blue Cheer and Blue Oyster Cult were very early purveyors of this sound. Typical bands are Kyuss and Sleep.
Well here's one we agree on. Mostly.

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As for High on Fire I`ll agree they are faster than I thought with a heavy Motorhead influence and touches of Slayer. But they do have a sluggish heavy Kyuss type sound as well which underpins everything. For that reason I`d still classify them as a stoner metal band with a faster sound. The drumming is about as intense as that of say Mastodon
I'll split the difference and agree they have some songs that have the sluggish quality you're talking about where I could see a connection to Stoner Metal. Overall, though, I wouldn't put them in that category.
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