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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman
Here's a bit of a brain teaser: Is God capable of giving humans free will?
(I use God to refer to the deity that is used by Catholicism, the same idea could apply to many God/god/gods)
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Yes. God is capable of giving humans free will. Just the fact that HE let you create this thread without having your fingers bleed is one proof.
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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman
I would argue no.
Let's say that God creates a human being. God creates this human being with the full knowledge of past, present, and future since God is said to be all powerful and all knowing.
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No human being has the full knowledge of the past and the future. I forgot what I ate for lunch exactly 1 week ago and don't know what I'll be eating tomorrow. God creates us humans full of imperfections and flaws and that's what makes us perfect in HIS eyes. That's what also makes the world interesting and beautiful.
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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman
Because God is all powerful, he also has the power to create or not create this human. And he must be totally aware of what he is creating since he is all knowing. So then if God creates a human that is destined to eat the fruit of knowledge and damn all humanity to an existence of sin and pain, than not only did he create that human with full knowledge of that humans destiny, but he then also therefore created that human with the purpose of damning all humanity in such a way. The actions of that human were the intended effects of that particular individual, created by God, in that particular environment, created by God.
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Not all humans think about damning humanity. Also, it's never God's intentions to make the world miserable by creating humans. Some humans tend to be violent and evil by means of choice. For example, instead of trying to break a fight between 2 guys, some try to view it as entertainment?
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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman
As this applies to all humans, life forms, objects, etc, etc etc, God is therefore solely responsible for all sin, pain, suffering etc.
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God is not responsible for anything humans are doing here on earth. But because He loves us all, He dies on the cross to save all of us from eternal hell.
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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman
As a result I can only conclude that if this God does exist, we actually have no free will and therefore we have no responsibility for our actions - all responsibility falls on God who created us with this destiny and for the purpose of living the life we live.
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If i broke something, I take responsiblity with it and try to fix it myself. Is this just another case of you being afraid of accepting your mistakes in life?
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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman
Here is an example of the relationship between a human creator and a robot which is very different. If a human creates a robot, and the robot was built improperly and so malfunctions in a destructive way, it is the fault of the human creator for being an incompetent designer. If the human had full knowledge that the malfunction would occur, the effects of the malfunction would be the intention of the creator and therefore it would be the fault of the creator for being immoral. This isn't about if the creator accidentally started a device that he knew would malfunction, its about intentionally starting a device which would malfunction with full knowledge of the effects and progression of events that would follow.
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I don't wanna compare myself (human) to a mere robot.
Is it really that hard for you to view God as a loving, caring, nurturing, understanding, good God than just a mere creator?
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Originally Posted by Ian E Coleman
Feel free to comment any counterarguments or elaborate on how this would relate to any other deities or paradoxes ect.
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i'm guessing you're experiencing a hard time in your life and blaming God for all of it. well, just pray very hard and take responsibility of your actions.