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Originally Posted by Pedestrian
I'm inclined to disagree that the debut album is typically the best. In the instance of every artist with a substantial discography that I think of, it's not.
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Well, what I said I didn't mean it as an unpopular opinion and had no prior knowledge of how what I said would be receive, and if I was going to fabricate an unpopular opinion I would had gone into length of what it was and worked out all the holes. How I meant "the best" was to be used as a compliment, I wasn't dubbing something as "the ultimate greatest" over anything else. Some people often say something like after eating a
Tiramisu, it was the best they ever ate, but they don't mean it's the all time greatest over all other deserts past/present/future and they'll never eat another desert as good or ever use that expression again, it's just that the
Tiramisu was the thoroughly enjoyable - the best. [shrug]
It's obvious that for many bands their debut album wasn't their most popular as far as albums sales or, critical review. And for most bands it's a slow climb to the top and once they arrive they had developed their sound and that becomes their signature sound, and anything that goes further back in their career becomes more undeveloped for some fans, but just because it's that way for some fans doesn't mean there isn't other fans where the earlier material was better. Having something as number one on the Pop chart isn't gauge for intrinsic artistic value of the song but a statistic for that popularity at a specific time the information was gathered.
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Originally Posted by Pedestrian
I think that if you explored RYM's discographies, you would find that the popular opinions also favour my view that the first album has seldom been the best.
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But Murmur was a great REM album, and I thoroughly enjoyed it and the IRS years were good productive years for REM, and I think because Green (Warner Bros.) was like their break through album for many that becomes their first introductory album they liked and then proceed to accumulate the rest of the REM discography, I see many fans site that as the first introductory album and for them their favorite/best.
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Or in other cases external factors and/or nativity on a band recording their first album means that they may end up making an album they didn't want to and will disown later on in their careers.
Such as Ministry.
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What is strange is that quote sounds like it's from a music critic with a quote from a member of the band and that is the opposite sediment of a Ministry
fan (the youtube poster), and Ron was speaking as a fan so I thought his opinion seemed like it reflected the opinion of other fans, whether he was or not I don't quite know. It's all subjective anyway - what a band thinks they are doing and how fans receive it. In consideration of those two quotes all they reveal is that fans and band members see things differently.