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Originally Posted by Jack Pat
1.) I think she has a decent voice (I'm not so biased as to deny that), but I wouldn't say she's one of the best singers of the last 20 years (let alone of all time)...
2.) I don't really take chart-topping music very seriously (at least from the 80s until present).
3.) The only pop artists that I know of to ever "define" a generation were The Beatles... and even that is a bit of a stretch. To say that a mediocre pop musician with a decent singing voice represents an entire generation (one which I am apart of) is ridiculous.
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1) You have VERY different criteria to me when it comes to 'good' singers, if that Meredith Monk is anything to go by. You look for stuff you can 'appreciate', I look for stuff that touches me, that makes me have a reaction Beyonce's voice has that affect on me, she may not have the most anally perfect technical voice compared to what you look for, but fúck me her voice is powerful and her delivery is perfect. THAT makes her a great singer, not whether she has a degree in freeform scat jazz. When was the last time you listened to a song and had shivers go down your spine? Or had the hairs on the back of your neck stand up? You're not going to get that from 'appreciating' music, you get that from 'feeling' music.
2) As a measure of popularity, the charts are still the best thing we have. And she consistently tops them, not once every so often, but near enough every song. And this has been the case for 14 years. How many other people could have the level of sustained success that she has had and still not get the acknowledgement and appreciation from music 'fans'.
3) Regardless of what you think, or choose to believe, the fact is when we're all dead and people look back to what was popular, what trends were around when we were young, they arent going to see Meredith Monk. They will see Beyonce, just like we see The Beatles, just like we see the Sex Pistols, Metallica, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis Presley. Beyonce is one of the defining artists of our generation, and based on her longevity I'd put her at the head of that list, making her THE defining artist.
Seriously Jack Pat, not all chart music is bad and evil. Some of it believe it or not is actually quite good. You dont have to be the only person with 500 miles to have heard of a song for it to be interesting (and when 'interesting' is the adjective used to describe a song, it generally means '****e'). You can enjoy music from today, no one will judge you negatively for it, most likely people wont even care that you listen to Lady Gaga, or Justin Bieber, or whatever you decide is the one that tickles your pickle. You'll occassionally find a popular song that actually describes your feelings perfectly.
Has there never been a girl like that? Can you not relate to that song at all?
I'm seriously wondering when was the last time you felt emotional through a song. Have you ever cried during a song? Or are songs just things that need to be analysed and compared to you?