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Originally Posted by Odyshape
His background to me is not what interested me. His contradictions are not what interest me. It is his thought processes that are interesting to me. That is what I like about him. I don't find too much value what he is himself but simply some of his suggestions. He taught ideas of awareness and ideas of love that simply make sense to me. Enough sense where things unravel in a way that I enjoy. Its not really too complicated and I discovered from reading a lot of his meditation techniques that I have been doing a lot of things he suggests without recognizing it. I have a bit more control over knowing how to achieving those moments now and that control is something quite nice for me.
Also I think being anti Ghandi is definitely justified by the fact that he wished to return India to the caste system. Peacefully returning India to such a horrible life degrading system to me is in no way good.
I think you are completely justified in your perspective against Osho but you have to understand that spirituality is something waiting to burst out of everyone and everyone has a different means of reaching that.
Nice song btw I wish I could understand the lyrics but I suck horribly at understanding poetry and symbolism.
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He taught ideas of awareness and ideas of love that simply make sense to me. Enough sense where things unravel in a way that I enjoy. Its not really too complicated and I discovered from reading a lot of his meditation techniques that I have been doing a lot of things he suggests without recognizing it. I have a bit more control over knowing how to achieving those moments now and that control is something quite nice for me.
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I'm glad to hear you say that. Spirituality is an inner, personal experience. I am not discounting his ideas concerning this at all. Love is it man. That is the only acceptable emotion there is. And, the hardest person to Love is yourself. I still struggle with it, and, I promise you I stood in the presence of the most unbelievable Light, and felt the Love of Providence. Nirvana, Samsara, Salvation....whatever you call it by, I experienced it dude. And, not simply for myself, but, for everyone.
We are all One brother, and, I hope Osho makes that clear. His problem is the main message of the song. He was attached to material pleasures, and, worldly desires. It is only when we can let go of desire, ego, and the attachments we have to the world can we evolve Spiritually.
I'm not suggesting asceticism, or torturing yourself physically or mentally, or even taking life too seriously. And, if you are concerned in the least about salvation, I can Truthfully tell you that you are without a shadow of doubt.
"But one who devotes one's soul and studies the law of the Most High will seek out the wisdom of all the ancients and will be concerned with prophecies. That person will keep in mind the discourse of reputable men and will go into the subtleties of parables. That person will seek out the hidden things of proverbs and will be occupied with the enigmas of parables."
You do not have to do this. I did. I have known since childhood that it was my duty, but, I never disclose or reveal things of that nature, because, I have no desire for anything personal. I did not meditate, nor did I seek my experiences. I was not as much 'awakened', as I was told to 'wake up'!
I do not post on religion forums, and never preach religion. If Osho teaches that organized religion is a scourge, he is dead on correct. If he teaches Spirituality as an inner Light that exists as a source within us all, then he is also correct. If he teaches that Love is all-encompassing, and to focus your meditation on Love and Light then he is also correct. Emptying the mind, becoming as a child, and to study all the teachings, and to see the Truth in every Word ever written, then he is teaching Truth.
I apologize if you felt offended, as I can see now that you are apparently sifting the wheat from the tares as it applies to your own Spirituality, and, that is to be commended.
I will stop here, because, I am not a teacher, guru, sage, prophet, or anyone else more important than anyone. My only 'gift' is interpretation, and, I have nothing to say that has not been written a million times already. I will leave you with the Words revealed through the Spirit of Logos, which is contained in various 'sources'. The Names do not matter, i.e. Christ is Buddha, and Buddha Christ, and Krishna, and........it's all Logos, and the 'Holy Spirit'. If Osho teaches the Name 'Nameless', then he knows. Spirit and Truth. And, the One Name that we can know, yet never speak.
Nothing, then, redeems us from this world. But the All which we are, we are saved. We have received salvation from end to end. Let us think in this way! Let us comprehend in this way!
See everyone as Buddha/Christ/God/ (Yourself). This purifies the mind of ignorance and arrogance.
Most people fail to see this reality, for they are attached to what they cling to, to pleasures and delights. Since all the world is so attached to material things, it's very difficult for people to grasp how everything originates in conditions and causes. It's a hard job for them to see the meaning of the fact that everything, including ourselves, depends on everything else and has no permanent self-existence.
A name is imposed on what is thought to be a thing or a state and this divides it from other things and other states. But when you pursue what lies behind the name, you find a greater and greater subtlety that has no divisions. Atoms of dust are not really atoms of dust but are merely called that. In the same way, a world is not a world but is merely called that.
I apologize, and, I hope you see the Truth in these Words. You should, you wrote them
peace
steve eden