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Old 11-30-2011, 07:11 AM   #138 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Il Duce View Post
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well, inversely, Jesus believed that atheists existed
Ah Duce, now? I don't want to. The Jesus debacle in that book is so corrupted, mistranslated, and, misinterpreted, it would take more than four carpenters to straighten out the mess.

But, in the sense of the Greek 'atheos', then yes, Jesus did not believe it, He knew it.

However, in two of the three synoptic gospels, Jesus last Words at the cross.

and about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a great voice, saying, `Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?' that is, `My God, my God, (The Gospel of Phillip adds 'Oh Lord') why didst Thou forsake me?'

It would simply take a book to try to explain the Jesus mess, so, just chew on this, and tell me what you take from it. And, the concept of a masculine gender for a being named God arose with the advent of Christianity, and was neutral prior to that, so take it for what it's worth I suppose. I'll add to the story if you like. It is quite the mystery, and the Son of man portrayed a lot of roles. A lot. If you have questions, I'll do my best to briefly address them, but, I will open a can of worms I do not particularly want to open

Mary said to him, "Lord, if many went astray and died, how will we know the difference?" The Perfect Savior answered, "Forsake the visible realm, make an end of visible things, then approach from the realm of the invisible, and the very Source of Thought will reveal to you how faith in the invisible can be found in the visible realm - those things that are the un-begotten Father's. Whoever has ears, let him hear!

Mary said, "There is but one saying I will speak to the Lord concerning the mystery of truth: In this have we taken our stand, and to the cosmic are we transparent."

Nathaniel, never permit yourself for one moment to believe the Scripture records which tell you that the God of love directed your forefathers to go forth in battle to slay all their enemies . . . The scriptures always have, and always will reflect the intellectual, moral, and spiritual status of those who create them. . . Many earnest seekers after the truth have been, and will continue to be, confused and disheartened by these doctrines of the perfection of Scripture (Jesus).

The Scriptures are sacred because they present the thoughts and actions of men who were searching for God . . . they contain much that is true, very much, . . . but these writings also contain much that is misrepresentative of the Father in heaven, the loving Father I have come to reveal to all the worlds. (Jesus)

peace

steve
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