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Originally Posted by starrynight
Well yeh obviously music is a deliberate artistic act, though there would still be the question of do other animals make music in that case. There is also the question of when a traditionally thought non-musical element is introduced in a piece of music and so is then seen in a musical context.
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If (for the simple purposes of this discussion) accepting my suggested definition of music, as a deliberate artistic act using sound, then I would say that animals instinctively making noises is generally not music. Their sounds may be deliberate, but in most cases, it will be better described as language - a means of communication - and not an attempt at anything artistic. Just what artistic means is also hard to say, but it's useful even if it means it's something more than simply talking. Making a particular sound because you like listening to it is something I could consider artistic (and perhaps there are animals that do this), but probably not a mating call which is more like saying "Yo! Let's have sex!" .. In other words, language!