Jackjekel your an idoit, TMV are not over board casted by mainstream, they're not even close to mainstream, and in concert they're at they're best. Oh, annd they're music is not 1980-ish it's more a mix of zeppelin, floyd, and some latin jazz.
anyway, de-loused is totally good and the story behind is totally sad and crazy. but to fully grasp TMV you gotta hear them in concert, I mean they turn 6 min songs into like 30 min songs thats prety damn crazy
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