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Old 12-24-2011, 05:02 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
The Fall, The Pop Group, and This Heat are post punk.
'Nuff said.
Damn, that reminds me, I should get to downloading 'The Pop Group'.

As for the debate, bands labeled as post punk are better than bands labeled as proto-punk. However, it's hard to consider Post-Punk a genre as it's just a gimmick term for a grouping of bands that don't sound even remotely similar to each other. For me, "Post" is just another annoying buzzword like "Indie", "Alternative", and "Core". I can say the exact same thing as "Proto".

But, really, are "This Heat", "Public Image LTD", "Godspeed You! Black Emporer", and "Joy Division" really similar enough bands to justify a genre label?

Just sounds like a way to lump every piece of technical and/or ambient punk influenced music into one big box. I'd almost say that the connection is the similarities between kosmiche like traits of these bands, but a few like the seminal Joy Division really have none. Joy Division sound like a mixture of Velvet Underground, and punk rock. However, sometimes post-punk doesn't sound like 'punk' at all. A large portion sounds exactly like 80s art rock, or straight up avant-rock.

It's positively the most randomly schlepped together genre I've ever seen. Like trying to find the links between "The Residents", "Deer Hunter", "U-Men", "5uus", and "Weather Report". Then calling it a genre. Because, musically, I could imagine every one of those bands fitting into post-punk with the right visual aesthetic and/or took themselves more seriously.
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