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xEmochicKx · 06-25-2004, 08:53 PM

What about the Juliana Theory? They're good...i suggest dowloading "August in Bethany" its amazing

Alright well I just wanted to share something I thought was interesting. I've been to tons of "emo" (notice i quote emo cuz everyone seems to have a different definition for it) boards and in every single one people are arguing about their different perceptions of "emo". Well someone posted something that suggested emo lovers go through different stages of band favourites. Basically, our music taste progresses in phases up to the point where the only emo we will like is the really early "real" emo bands from the 80s and 90s. Now this was supposed to be a humourous post but it is based on true facts.

I seriously noticed people in those different stages. Some guys, even though they used to love bands like Brand New and The Get Up Kids, insist that they are now "talentless retards who cant hold notes or play proper intruments" and go on insulting others for liking more mainstream bands or bands that didnt come out before 1994! Not only that but they judge people based on their musical tastes stating that they are "***gots" for listening to Matchbook Romance, Sunny Day Real Estate, Taking Back Sunday etc... Anyways..here is the post:

The Phases of Emo :
I. Phase one:
-Discard all Pacific Sunwear clothing.
-Discard all albums from the labels Epitaph, Nitro, and Lookout.
-Discard your Sublime collection.
-Purchase albums by these bands:
The Get Up Kids
The Promise Ring
Pedro the Lion
Texas is the Reason
Sunny Day Real Estate
Juliana Theory
Saves the Day
Weezer
-Purchase several sweaters.
-Buy horn-rimmed glasses with colored lenses ; pop lenses out and wear as 'normal' glasses.
-Start going to 'shows'. Go to any show, regardless of who is playing.
-Begin slicking your hair back.
-Join The Get Up Kids' 'Fun Club'; wear the T-shirt you receive frequently.
-Start a band; play Blink 182's 'Dammit' only.
-Change your AOL screen name to 'NFGEmoDood182'.

II. Phase two:
-Realize that liking all the bands whose CDs you have just bought is not 'cool', because they are 'sellouts'.
-Discard all recently purchased CDs.
-Purchase CDs by the following 'underground' bands:
Death Cab for Cutie
Drive Like Jehu
Jets to Brazil
Built to Spill
Alkaline Trio
-Begin shopping for clothes at the thrift store.
-Start a new band; the name should be at least three words. Play music that 'can't be classified', meaning that everyone you know calls it indie rock.
-Deny that you ever listened to any of the bands from Phase One.

III. Phase three:
-Realize that the bands from Phase Two are not underground.
-Hit the 'Net in a panicked attempt to find 'underground' bands.
-Purchase albums (preferably 7") by these bands:
Mineral
Orchid
Indian Summer
Antioch Arrow
Moss Icon
The Locust
-Start your own 'zine'.
-Get an online diary. Extra points for your own domain, with a name like 'codiene.net'.
-Change your AOL screen name to 'as close to cold'.
-Begin typing in all lowercase letters, and ...like.this...
-Quit your band. Bands are lame.
-Berate Phase One people for A) liking 'sellout' music and B) not knowing who the bands are that you list in your AOL profile.

IV. Phase four:
-Become 'intellectual'.
-Carry obscure and/or philosophical texts in your used army bag. IE Siddhartha.
-Become a 'photographer'. Always carry your camera, because you find things that most people overlook to be 'interesting'.
-Make 'collages'.
-Talk about going to 'art school' and taking 'road trips'.
-Buy music by these bands:
q and not u
Cap'n Jazz
Don Caballero
Mogwai
Neutral Milk Hotel
-Determine that rock music is 'dead'.
-Change your AOL screen name to ' delete radio '
-Inform everyone of how long you have known about your recent musical selections, which is of course long before they did, and scoff at them for being 'poseurs'.
-Declare that the 'scene is dead', but even if it wasn't, scenes are lame.
-Start a new 'musical project'; classify it as one or more of the following genres (if you absolutely must resort to something so lame as classification):
Post-punk
Noise
Grindcore
No wave
Space rock
Drone
Shoegaze
-Sound like Trans Am.
-Smoke cigarettes; write songs about smoking cigarettes and other such 'nonsensical' topics. Love songs are lame.
-Dislike 'other people' on the basis of their inherent intellectual inferiority. Laugh derisively when they mention their band / their favorite band.

V. Phase five:
-Scoff at the term 'emo'.
-Become one of the following:
a. Indie -
-Get many tattoos, all bad.
-Wear plugs in your ears.
-Grow sideburns; always be somewhat unshaven.
-Have a few piercings, but not enough to make you look like you are pierced to be 'cool'.
-Be in a band. Dislike the band that you are in.

b. Mod-
-Wear a denim jacket, small, regardless of the weather.
-Grow your hair out, just long enough that it hangs down over your forehead.
-Ride a Vespa.
-Wear a scarf.
-Be in a 'minimal' band with only keyboard and vocals. Dream of being able to present your music to Sigur Ros and Yo La Tengo at once.
-Give your band a somewhat French name, preferably starting with 'le'.

c. Hardcore-
-Have 'opinions' on 'important issues'.
-Inform anyone and everyone that you would die at any time for your beliefs, because you are 'intense' and 'for real'.
-Write lyrics or poems that are emotionally driven, but not wimpy. Talk about all the struggles you have gone through for your beliefs, and all your friends who have sold you out. Make frequent references to your blood flowing.
-Have a band with A) a name that is a single, but powerful word, like 'Indecision' or B) a name that is multiple words, and vague yet ominous. IE 'The Enemy of my Enemy is My Friend'.
-Talk constantly about how much you hate emo kids. Frequently use the phrase 'Quit crying, emo kid', as well as clever variations like, 'Hey emo kid, need a Kleenex?'.
-Wear a hoodie. Always.

d. A washed up loser with no life skills and no social value-
-This is your most likely route

I just want to say that I really think people should stop thinking about if a band is emo or not and just listen to it because they like it and feel a certain connection to the music. On an emo site I read that to make sure you follow the "emo style" it is almost necessary for you to appear as you are more intellectual about bands that other people by inventing, thats right inventing names of bands so others feel they are less knowledgeable than you are. Even if the band doesn't exist, who's gonna know right? So apprently lots of people do that.

Anyways my point is that just because someone says Still Life (as an example) is the sh*t, doesn't mean you have to listen to them. And even if someone doesn't classify your favourite band as "emo", the important thing is what you think it is and that you like it.

One more thing, I classify "emo" by song. As an example, Finch is really not that emo but the song "Ender" can simply not be classified as anything other than emo. Let's face it, emo is short for EMOTIONAL so you make it to what you want it to be!

06-25-2004, 08:53 PM	#49 (permalink)
xEmochicKx Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 91	What about the Juliana Theory? They're good...i suggest dowloading "August in Bethany" its amazing Alright well I just wanted to share something I thought was interesting. I've been to tons of "emo" (notice i quote emo cuz everyone seems to have a different definition for it) boards and in every single one people are arguing about their different perceptions of "emo". Well someone posted something that suggested emo lovers go through different stages of band favourites. Basically, our music taste progresses in phases up to the point where the only emo we will like is the really early "real" emo bands from the 80s and 90s. Now this was supposed to be a humourous post but it is based on true facts. I seriously noticed people in those different stages. Some guys, even though they used to love bands like Brand New and The Get Up Kids, insist that they are now "talentless retards who cant hold notes or play proper intruments" and go on insulting others for liking more mainstream bands or bands that didnt come out before 1994! Not only that but they judge people based on their musical tastes stating that they are "*gots" for listening to Matchbook Romance, Sunny Day Real Estate, Taking Back Sunday etc... Anyways..here is the post: The Phases of Emo : I. Phase one: -Discard all Pacific Sunwear clothing. -Discard all albums from the labels Epitaph, Nitro, and Lookout. -Discard your Sublime collection. -Purchase albums by these bands: The Get Up Kids The Promise Ring Pedro the Lion Texas is the Reason Sunny Day Real Estate Juliana Theory Saves the Day Weezer -Purchase several sweaters. -Buy horn-rimmed glasses with colored lenses ; pop lenses out and wear as 'normal' glasses. -Start going to 'shows'. Go to any show, regardless of who is playing. -Begin slicking your hair back. -Join The Get Up Kids' 'Fun Club'; wear the T-shirt you receive frequently. -Start a band; play Blink 182's 'Dammit' only. -Change your AOL screen name to 'NFGEmoDood182'. II. Phase two: -Realize that liking all the bands whose CDs you have just bought is not 'cool', because they are 'sellouts'. -Discard all recently purchased CDs. -Purchase CDs by the following 'underground' bands: Death Cab for Cutie Drive Like Jehu Jets to Brazil Built to Spill Alkaline Trio -Begin shopping for clothes at the thrift store. -Start a new band; the name should be at least three words. Play music that 'can't be classified', meaning that everyone you know calls it indie rock. -Deny that you ever listened to any of the bands from Phase One. III. Phase three: -Realize that the bands from Phase Two are not underground. -Hit the 'Net in a panicked attempt to find 'underground' bands. -Purchase albums (preferably 7") by these bands: Mineral Orchid Indian Summer Antioch Arrow Moss Icon The Locust -Start your own 'zine'. -Get an online diary. Extra points for your own domain, with a name like 'codiene.net'. -Change your AOL screen name to 'as close to cold'. -Begin typing in all lowercase letters, and ...like.this... -Quit your band. Bands are lame. -Berate Phase One people for A) liking 'sellout' music and B) not knowing who the bands are that you list in your AOL profile. IV. Phase four: -Become 'intellectual'. -Carry obscure and/or philosophical texts in your used army bag. IE Siddhartha. -Become a 'photographer'. Always carry your camera, because you find things that most people overlook to be 'interesting'. -Make 'collages'. -Talk about going to 'art school' and taking 'road trips'. -Buy music by these bands: q and not u Cap'n Jazz Don Caballero Mogwai Neutral Milk Hotel -Determine that rock music is 'dead'. -Change your AOL screen name to ' delete radio ' -Inform everyone of how long you have known about your recent musical selections, which is of course long before they did, and scoff at them for being 'poseurs'. -Declare that the 'scene is dead', but even if it wasn't, scenes are lame. -Start a new 'musical project'; classify it as one or more of the following genres (if you absolutely must resort to something so lame as classification): Post-punk Noise Grindcore No wave Space rock Drone Shoegaze -Sound like Trans Am. -Smoke cigarettes; write songs about smoking cigarettes and other such 'nonsensical' topics. Love songs are lame. -Dislike 'other people' on the basis of their inherent intellectual inferiority. Laugh derisively when they mention their band / their favorite band. V. Phase five: -Scoff at the term 'emo'. -Become one of the following: a. Indie - -Get many tattoos, all bad. -Wear plugs in your ears. -Grow sideburns; always be somewhat unshaven. -Have a few piercings, but not enough to make you look like you are pierced to be 'cool'. -Be in a band. Dislike the band that you are in. b. Mod- -Wear a denim jacket, small, regardless of the weather. -Grow your hair out, just long enough that it hangs down over your forehead. -Ride a Vespa. -Wear a scarf. -Be in a 'minimal' band with only keyboard and vocals. Dream of being able to present your music to Sigur Ros and Yo La Tengo at once. -Give your band a somewhat French name, preferably starting with 'le'. c. Hardcore- -Have 'opinions' on 'important issues'. -Inform anyone and everyone that you would die at any time for your beliefs, because you are 'intense' and 'for real'. -Write lyrics or poems that are emotionally driven, but not wimpy. Talk about all the struggles you have gone through for your beliefs, and all your friends who have sold you out. Make frequent references to your blood flowing. -Have a band with A) a name that is a single, but powerful word, like 'Indecision' or B) a name that is multiple words, and vague yet ominous. IE 'The Enemy of my Enemy is My Friend'. -Talk constantly about how much you hate emo kids. Frequently use the phrase 'Quit crying, emo kid', as well as clever variations like, 'Hey emo kid, need a Kleenex?'. -Wear a hoodie. Always. d. A washed up loser with no life skills and no social value- -This is your most likely route I just want to say that I really think people should stop thinking about if a band is emo or not and just listen to it because they like it and feel a certain connection to the music. On an emo site I read that to make sure you follow the "emo style" it is almost necessary** for you to appear as you are more intellectual about bands that other people by inventing, thats right inventing names of bands so others feel they are less knowledgeable than you are. Even if the band doesn't exist, who's gonna know right? So apprently lots of people do that. Anyways my point is that just because someone says Still Life (as an example) is the sh*t, doesn't mean you have to listen to them. And even if someone doesn't classify your favourite band as "emo", the important thing is what you think it is and that you like it. One more thing, I classify "emo" by song. As an example, Finch is really not that emo but the song "Ender" can simply not be classified as anything other than emo. Let's face it, emo is short for EMOTIONAL so you make it to what you want it to be!