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Old 03-04-2012, 01:43 PM   #173 (permalink)
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No problem, go to u tube check out the "down the rabbit hole" series it is multi parted start at part 1, then u can u tube, "gregg braden, the language of the divine matrix" it has 2 parts and is 4 hrs long but is mind blowing, and u tube, "Ron wyatt" he is a biblical archaeologists, that found the red sea crossing, noahs ark, sodom and gamorra, and the mountian of god, and has mind blowing evidence
Ehf, until I can be convinced otherwise, I am of the opinion that these guys are basically bull**** artists. They are biased in their work. If they find something on a seabed that looks like a cart track, even if it's made by animals or underwater currents or whatever, they're biased towards the cart explanation.

In my experience, religious people like you who take such stories literally like to handpick so called "proof". What I mean is there are people willing to claim proof of anything, like f.ex the earth being at the center of the universe or that the great flood actually happened. But when scientific method is applied, which is designed to remove biases, none of it holds water.

So there are people claiming all sorts of stuff and you've been hand-picking the stories that support your world view rather than be a critical thinker who tries to believe in what seems the most plausible. You've been thinking with your feelings rather than your rationality.

Of course I am not going to spend hours out of any of my days facepalming while watching people on the telly explaining to me why thousands of years old cart tracks are still visible on the seabed of the red sea or other such stories. If there really are any good arguments proposed by these people, then you can relay them to me here.

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It only takes a quick look at Wikipedia to find out a little about what other professionals think of this Wyatt guy.

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While Wyatt won a devoted following from the ranks of fundamentalist Christians seeking tangible evidence of the literal truth of the Bible, his credibility was disputed, often bitterly, by professional archaeologists and biblical scholars. The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on request:

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The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artifacts within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem. Though Mr Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical artifacts or temple treasures.
In a similar vein, archaeologist Joe Zias of Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) has stated that "Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National Enquirer, Sun etc.

Wyatt's fellow evangelicals have not been any less critical: Answers in Genesis called Wyatt's claims "fraudulent," and one Seventh-day Adventist professor of archaeology sums up Wyatt's Noah's Ark and anchor stones claims in these words: "While the Durupinar site is about the right length for Noah's ark, [it is] ... too wide to be Noah's ark. Wyatt has claimed that the "boat-shapedness" of this formation can only be explained by its being Noah's ark, but both Shea and Morris have offered other plausible explanations. Likewise, Wyatt has argued that the standing stones he has found are anchors, while Terian is aware of similar stones outside the Durupinar site area that were pagan cultic stones later converted by Christians for Christian purposes."

Dismissed by the mainstream as a pseudoarchaeologist, Wyatt's official organization, Wyatt Archaeological Research (WAR), claims that the IAA have always been aware of the excavations and issued "verbal permits" for most of them and official permits to all WAR excavations since 2002. Nevertheless, the only evidence of WAR involvement in a legitimate excavation sanctioned by the IAA relates to WAR part-funding of a 2005 dig.
>> source : Ron Wyatt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Excuse me if I don't sit down and dedicate hours to watching his documentary!
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