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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali
Well, if you've read what I've typed above, I hope that you can at least entertain the slightest possibility that music creation software is, logically, an instrument in the intuitive sense of the word. Maybe even in a denotative sense. And if you have any idea of the actual skill that's involved with music creation on a computer, then you definitely know it can't be compared to arbitrarily taking a photo, and that some merit should be given to the musicianship of a person with the ability to create what people consider good music.
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Agreed, and I don't think we as a group are that far off so much as I'm not expressing myself smoothly in my initial comments. Though my comments seem to generate a fair amount of feedback hehehe
You even reiterate the main thing I'm getting at in another post when you mention the difference between someone who knows what they're doing and some chump just slapping samples and default effects on a track. I recall the Chemical Brothers defending themselves on tv in regards to knowing how and when to twiddle knobs effectively and they expressed the same thing. There's a HUGE difference between an actual musician who's learned their instrument and how to exploit it to its fullest potential and some geek with a pirated version of cubase and canned beats.
The computer makes it easy for anyone to make music, it's still very hard to make good music.
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Originally Posted by Janszoon
As a person who actually is a professional in the field of visual arts, I have a couple of issues with the comparison you're making here. The first, as has already been pointed out, is that photography is a well established and respected medium of visual art. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who has studied art academically who doesn't consider photography to be art. Secondly, there is no Photoshop filter in existence that can replicate all the nuances of an actual painting.
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I think my visual example was misconstrued here. I never meant to imply photography wasn't a valid or respected medium. I'm a huge fan of complex photos specifically like the Dali image posted on the previous page (and call Pink Floyd's Ummagumma cover as the best album art ever for the same reason).
My point with photoshop is the trivialization of the artistic process for the masses. You guys all say it yourselves, there's a huge difference and distinction between someone with a creative mind and an artist's eye using those tools to meet their artistic ends as opposed to some shmuck just running the red-eye remover plugin and cranking up the lens flare filter.