Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Not even sorta kinda. Even wiki describes the album as metal? LOL reggae, rap and pop. No mention of punk whatsoever. I think our definitions of skatepunk differ greatly, but thats the nature of music. When i think of skatepunk i think of Ill Repute/RKL/Descendents/ and even NOFX to a certain degree even though i find them quite weak.

Originally Posted by The Virgin

what? i don't understand you. farming is for vegetables, not for meat. if ou disagree with a farming practice, you disagree on a vegetable. unless you have a different definition of farming.