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Old 05-18-2012, 03:30 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I pointed out this exception in an earlier post actually, pointing out that while prog bands use jams as an explorative way to come up with new music (just about all rock bands do), then end product is generally highly composed. If they improvise when playing a finished song, it's likely because they have room for improvisation written into the song somewhere and what's improvised then is typically a solo. That's not really jamming to me which is more when the whole band is free to improvise together.

I think the prog bands that improvise the most are the ones that approach jazz fusion, but then I think it's that jazzy part which explains the improvisation approach and not the prog part of the band.
I mentioned Prog Rock bands use jam sessions too as part of the creative process because you said that Prog is not improvised, well really you asked permission to make the genereal statement that "progressive rock is not improvised" and that was said without the inclusion of the exception you actually made in an earlier post.

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So, for the sake of discussion, can I make the general sweeping statement that progressive rock is not improvised?

Anyone agree or disagree?
So from there I didn't agree, but it seem that you agreed with me from an early post - to a certain point later specified. I don't know what you mean by "improvisation is written into the song." Really anything can be improvised like rhythms or melodies; improvising doesn't mean playing something without knowing what comes next. It might sound off the cuff without any structure at all, but it really means playing what one feels - a variation on a theme that's somewhat established. (There is a difference between controlled chaos and chaos out of control.) Well lets say if we agree a solo is structured within a song than it's an instrumental section of the song. Because it is part of the song (the instrumental section) doesn't mean that a musician can not improvise the lead part or the band is not jamming behind him.
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