Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

The first 3 Kiss albums are just as good as anything the New York Dolls put out. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just deluding themselves, they're both exactly the same thing.

As for the New York Dolls not influencing hair metal, you don't seem to understand that not all hair metal was Bon Jovi, Poison style MTV videos & Ballads. A lot of the early hair metal bands has a massive influence from both punk and the New York Dolls. Just look at Hanoi Rocks, Torme, Dogs D'amour Lords Of The New Church (Which featured Brian James of The Damned, Stiv Bators of The Dead Boys and Dave Tregunna of Sham 69. And plenty of others I can't be bothered to name right now.

Even Nikki Sixx once said Motley Crue's 3 biggest influences at the start of their career was The New York Dolls, The Sex Pistols & The Sweet.