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Originally Posted by Holerbot6000
Crossover Thrash? Deathcore? Who comes up with this sh*t? Sorry, I'm old and I'm running out of time so I can't be bothered to worry whether the punk rock I'm listening to is Speed Flap or Post Garbage Can. I just want to jump around and ROK out.
I do remember back in those 'Punk as Movement' days when some kids would get really snotty about what was and wasn't punk. Black Flag was hilariously notorious for playing sets of heavy metal and psychedelic covers whenever they faced an elitist punk crowd.
I understand what you're saying about being part of something, where maybe a particular type of music transcends a moment in time and becomes something more than the sum of it's parts, but I don't think that phenomenon is unique to punk rock. And I don't think it's fair to kill Punk off as a legitimate genre just because that moment has passed.
Punk is Punk, no matter how many dizzying sub genres you want to divide it up into and, as such, I think it's alive and well and always will be. Just one more crayon in the musical box, as it were.
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Actually Black Flag's my favorite band and I dig a lot of stuff other then punk so it's not like I'm a snotty elitist about it. It's perfectly fair to kill punk off. It's dead. Its spirit EXISTS in the dizzying subgenres, but a father and mother's spirit exists within their child, that doesn't mean the child is a carbon copy of their mother and father. I'm a eighth Native American, the blood and spirit of my great grandfather is within me, but that doesn't mean I could start a tribe with a bunch of other white people with a slight bit of Native American in them. I COULD but how the hell could we possibly say we're a Native American tribe when we're all related to people who slaughtered Native Americans as well?
Same thing with punk and the subgenres.
Also, your statement about Black Flag is a bit spun. They didn't play psychedelia and metal specifically to piss off punk elitists, they played it because that's what they began to enjoy playing and it pissed off the punk elitists who were their fans and after awhile they obviously begun to get a kick out of it.