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Old 12-05-2012, 08:16 PM   #26 (permalink)
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My point still stands though, and an illogical action isn't proof of free will, it just shows that some people have some gaping holes in logic in their brain imo
I think one of the main issues here is you are trying to define free will as something very specific, when in actuality I think most people see it as something more general...as in, did I really make this choice? If there is free will, then yes...regardless of how my brain may have influenced it. If no, then there is some external force guiding my actions. Personally, I feel the latter is fairly unlikely. When viewed that way...any choice - whether it's because I like or dislike something and whether it's because of some experience I had in the past - is still the end result of ME making that choice. The argument you are making is whether or not free will is some tangible attribute humans must have, external from our actions or experiences. If that's the case, then I actually agree with you. But that is not what free will is.
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