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Sherane's a recurring theme in the story which is Good Kid Mad City, she is referenced throughout and plays her part in Kendrick's tale. The track serves to introduce you to her and as a time frame in which K.Dot's looking back on how the two met, how they grew to like one another and his apprehension's going forward with her. It's not like he's just singing about some hoe on his d*ck.
You've recognized it yourself that Poetic Justice is a continuation in his theme, I find it hard to believe you'd use the term 'whining' when describing it though especially when your argument of a better album presents the following:

As for backseat freestyle it's the radio song from the album, but its inclusion is explained by way of the simple sentence of K.Dot's buddy telling him he has a beat and blank CD, so he is to prepare his freestyle whilst the ride in the car to the next chapter of the story.


It may not be ground breaking production, but you can't knock it technically, it's not as if the beats randomly skip about or the levels are distorted. Everything is masterfully done. It may be basic in places but you can't argue that the basics are perfected. Also the production style compliments the story and theme of the album. I don't think it can be faulted for not particularly being overbearing when that is not the goal of the record. It's a story rather than an exhibition in production.


Super Rich Kids was one of the songs that brought the album down in my opinion. It's basically just "I'm rich, this is my life" but Frank not coming out and using first person in it. It could be about his own experiences it may be about someone else, either way it just basically says 'this is what rich people do'
It was just a filler track. He then inserts some lines about love to keep the theme of 'love' constant, because that's what most of the album's about right, Frank Ocean: unlucky in love.
I can't see how this track is engaging, I know your guy Earl drops a verse but again, it's not really necessary.

As for Money Trees and how the rest of the tracks could be interpreted, here's what this guy wrote

My Interpretation of Good Kid, M.A.A.D City Story « Kanye West Forum

If that's the case, aren't Super Rich Kids and Sweet Life in effect the same song? They seem to do the exact same thing of talking from the perspective of a well off person as they talk about their nice things. If we're talking about played out, we've got two tracks on the one album that tell the same story, I challenge you to find another song which manages to articulately channel the concept of the dangers of peer pressure as Swimming Pools all the time being able to present itself as the antithesis of what it actually represents. How many pool parties blared this song whilst ignorantly it spoke of the ills of what they were doing. It takes a clever song to have that level of crossover appeal. I can't think of another that manages to pull it off.

It seems to me this is getting less of a discussion about GKMC, and more of a comparison between it and Channel ORANGE. Although I'm surprised you find Channel ORANGE more engaging, it was the nature of the earlier tracks that began to sour the album somewhat for me. On first listen I thought it was excellent, repeated listens of primarily Super Rich Kids and Sweet Life made the album as a whole drop in my estimation, which is a shame when you combine it with the genius of everything Pyramids up.


I wouldn't use Music Banter as a gauge for how music is received. Most members here are either idiots, too pretentious to listen to a mainstream album or spend all their time talking about ridiculous crap in the lounge rather than contributing to music discussion. I like this forum and community, but I wouldn't say this is the make or break place for whether an album's been well received or not.

I think when Frank truly breaks away from Odd Future and becomes his own man, without others riding his coat tails and bringing him down, he could potentially become the next Usher or MJ. His appearance on the Grammies as well as the extended radio play of Thinkin About You especially indicates it's only a matter of time until he blows up even further than he already has.


I'll look into some of them, never being a massive folk guy. But I'll give some a shot.


You guessed correctly, nothing against them. But another band that just isn't 100% my cup of tea, Strawberry Jam's pretty cool and I've been meaning to listen to Merriweather Pavillion or whatever you call it.


His story may not be unique, but that's why I think so many people can relate to it. If he did a Deltron 3030 and spoke of outlandish characters in a far off galaxy, he wouldn't be able to utilize his honesty and his self effacing nature. He plays to his strengths. Every artist should. I'm not an Eminem fan at all, but that's a different kettle of fish.

As for a lyrical content and story telling, here's one of my favourite K.Dot verses, from Hol' Up off of Section 8.0