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Screen13 · 12-14-2013, 09:32 AM

It's a sad but true fact of Music Life. I say we all (or at least most of us) were there at one time or another, but it's the end of that point when you discover of you really were listening to the music or wanting to be in that group of people with a soundtrack that has the potential to go on and on and on forever with very little change or experimentation. The saddest thing is that if a band is iconic in a certain style, especially if they released album after album of the same thing and still getting goals, it usually sounds changed enough for the fans to cry out FAIL and wish for the "better" (ie Early Days) to reappear with a carbon copy of what made them known, although of course it sometimes works when an artists forms something new.

Fans are like packs. When a band starts to do something that's considered not in that pack's law book, to that group of listeners it's a crime that should be punished with no sales and a bunch of whining - back in the pre-internet days, it would be like a secret meeting huddled around a table debating of what they were guilty of. To those of my age, maybe some memories of hanging out at a party declaring so and so a traitor to the cause like some society of hardcore fans of a music will be brought out once again.

That fear of "The Change" for better or worse is in the inner CEO of a number of music fans. A lot of people seem to develop that trait of the very people we criticize.

ADDING ON - Just thought about the rare exceptions to the rule...thinking of packs. This will be a bit cynical, but read on. Keep in mind I'm not dissing on the music...

Sometimes those who do make it with the radical changes fall into the category of having a strong attraction. Especially when it's a Pop Band with a sizable following that still has those drawn into the image...As for The Beatles and their fans accepting a lot of their great White Album madness, as for Blur and Blur and 13...you know what I mean. Or how about Radiohead and College Rock face Thom Yorke? And Varg Vikerens has had his female following after turning from Black Metal to Ambient. How about The Clash getting away with that great 3 album set Sandinista! and the Hip Hop Punk "This Is Radio Clash" single as they were still in sharp style with their music, Siouxsie's Gothic Magical Mystery Tours of The 80's with a touch of exotic percussion that were very 180 degrees from the Punk beginnings or John Lydon moving into PiL with a good amount of success?

No dissing on the music, but once again, the pack is the rule. In Music, the attraction sells, but sometimes is either grows up with it's audience with that attraction still there or moves onto a new one if the change is radical enough to grab a new set of followers.

Yeah, we can go on about the true greatness of the White Album, 13, OK Computer, and so on, but their success measures up to having an attraction that can be the exception to the rule even if the great music is still the final thing that we judge them on.

Just throwing another side to this topic.

12-14-2013, 09:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
Screen13 Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,388	It's a sad but true fact of Music Life. I say we all (or at least most of us) were there at one time or another, but it's the end of that point when you discover of you really were listening to the music or wanting to be in that group of people with a soundtrack that has the potential to go on and on and on forever with very little change or experimentation. The saddest thing is that if a band is iconic in a certain style, especially if they released album after album of the same thing and still getting goals, it usually sounds changed enough for the fans to cry out FAIL and wish for the "better" (ie Early Days) to reappear with a carbon copy of what made them known, although of course it sometimes works when an artists forms something new. Fans are like packs. When a band starts to do something that's considered not in that pack's law book, to that group of listeners it's a crime that should be punished with no sales and a bunch of whining - back in the pre-internet days, it would be like a secret meeting huddled around a table debating of what they were guilty of. To those of my age, maybe some memories of hanging out at a party declaring so and so a traitor to the cause like some society of hardcore fans of a music will be brought out once again. That fear of "The Change" for better or worse is in the inner CEO of a number of music fans. A lot of people seem to develop that trait of the very people we criticize. ADDING ON - Just thought about the rare exceptions to the rule...thinking of packs. This will be a bit cynical, but read on. Keep in mind I'm not dissing on the music... Sometimes those who do make it with the radical changes fall into the category of having a strong attraction. Especially when it's a Pop Band with a sizable following that still has those drawn into the image...As for The Beatles and their fans accepting a lot of their great White Album madness, as for Blur and Blur and 13...you know what I mean. Or how about Radiohead and College Rock face Thom Yorke? And Varg Vikerens has had his female following after turning from Black Metal to Ambient. How about The Clash getting away with that great 3 album set Sandinista! and the Hip Hop Punk "This Is Radio Clash" single as they were still in sharp style with their music, Siouxsie's Gothic Magical Mystery Tours of The 80's with a touch of exotic percussion that were very 180 degrees from the Punk beginnings or John Lydon moving into PiL with a good amount of success? No dissing on the music, but once again, the pack is the rule. In Music, the attraction sells, but sometimes is either grows up with it's audience with that attraction still there or moves onto a new one if the change is radical enough to grab a new set of followers. Yeah, we can go on about the true greatness of the White Album, 13, OK Computer, and so on, but their success measures up to having an attraction that can be the exception to the rule even if the great music is still the final thing that we judge them on. Just throwing another side to this topic. Last edited by Screen13; 12-14-2013 at 11:02 AM.