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Old 02-05-2014, 05:36 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by djchameleon View Post
I don't think it has anything to do with being open. Also I guess that's your experience with first listens to albums that you just do it casually but when I listen to an album the first time through I give it my full attention to pick apart the things that I do/don't like about it.

Which I guess is only something that I do and not anyone else in this thread.
Maybe Trollheart does as well.
I think I do. I almost never (unless I get distracted by burning toast or a knock at the door or aliens invading --- or aliens knocking at the doorto tell me my toast is burning!) listen to an album with half an ear. Especially if it's the first time, I want to know if it's something I'm going to like, so whether or not I'm reviewing it or filing it away for later review, I listen as fully as I can. I want to know like DJ what's good about it, what if anything is great about it and what if anything is bad about it. If it's a band/artiste I've never heard of and I like it I'll then probably go looking for more by them.

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Originally Posted by Ninetales View Post
Do you listen to different music depending on mood? It's not about listening to it "casually" but sometimes certain pieces click when im in a different state of mind
No. Mood has nothing to do with me. If I'm depressed I can usually listen to a slow instrumental but could as easily listen to Iron Maiden or Tom Waits. It's seldom if at all that I fit music to my mood, though of course particular albums/tracks may AFFECT my mood, ie sad songs etc.
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Originally Posted by Janszoon View Post
Sure it does. If you view repeat listens to an album that didn't immediately click with you as "torture", then clearly you're not open to repeat listens.


My experience is that nothing is set in stone. How closely I listen can vary. My mood can vary. Circumstances beyond my control can vary. Sometimes it's a matter of where I was in life when I heard something. There are albums that didn't click with when I first heard them but then years later, when I was in a different place in life, I rediscovered them and ended up loving them.
That's true as well, with the oft-quoted-by-me example of Phil Collins' "Face value". But what I think we're saying here is that if you listen to a NEW album (to you) first time and HATE it --- I mean don't see anything good in it at all --- then why push yourself to like it? I know this is not what you're saying but the overall consensus often seems to be "you'll like it if you spin it a few more times." That may be true, but I'd rather go with my formulated opinion made by listening to the album once than try to keep listening to it to make myself eventually like it.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon View Post
First listens are different with me because I let myself be open to what it is I'm hearing regardless of my mood. My mood doesn't skew first listens. It may for you and others but it doesn't work that way with me.

More or less the same for me, plus there's the anticipation factor: will it be great/terrible? Am I on the brink of something special here? Will this end up being my new favourite band and so on. Also for me, it's always a case of will this merit reviews? Do I think it's that good that I want to share it with people, or, conversely, so bad that they need to know how bad it is, and how disappointed I was with it?
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Why do you need to put yourself through repeated listens of something that you don't specifically click with in the first place I don't get it.
Nor me. It's the old "acquired taste" thing I was talking about...
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan View Post
That is a wrong assessment of the album, Trollheart, maybe one of these days I should do a review of it.
You should do that. However remember it is MY assessment of the album, and so is not "wrong", just different to how you feel.

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uugghh I hope Briks rips this idea of yours off as well. Though he hasn't the years behind him to see a bunch of his favorite bands crash and burn in their ultimate demise.
He has been warned legally. Also, "Swan song" is not just about bands crashing and burning. a-ha went out on a high, so did Lizzy. It's about how they prepare their final album and what it says about the band and the time they've been together. I assume you didn't agree with that review either?
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