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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy
I played almost every sport imaginable from middle school to high school. This includes football, cross country, baseball, track, swimming, wrestling, and tennis (was never any good at basketball lolz), and in every single locker room I was ever in for any of those sports, there were people making fun of each other, and it varied from bullying like the Incognito-Martin case to just messing around. This is how things are in sports. Sports are about being competitive and tough, it has nothing to do with some "manly" subculture, it's the sports culture. We can call Incognito a douche all day, and bringing race into the conversation is absolutely where he took it too far, but other than that there's really nothing wrong or surprising about dudes in a football locker room getting on each other's asses. Martin clearly isn't emotionally tough enough for the NFL if he can't handle a little trash talk the right way. If you don't understand this, FtD, you really just need to stop arguing because you are incredibly unqualified to discuss this topic and provide any opinions that hold any merit. You have zero evidence or experience. We also have zero evidence, but at least we have experience.
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Bullying isn't acceptable, it's banned in nearly every locker room, from high school to college to the NFL, and for good reason. Competitive and tough on the field is one thing, but harassment is not competitive nor is it tough, it's being an *******, whether or not you realize it or not. If someone doesn't like it, then they have a right to tell you, and if you don't stop, they have a right to sue you for harassment. Martin didn't even do that, he left the team, eventually the media caught on to it, and then the NFL did the rest. The fact that the NFL took it as seriously as they did, and the fact that the Dolphins took it as seriously as they did, should say everything there is to know about the context of this issue. One guy got harassed, one guy feels betrayed, it's life. It's reality. There's no subculture argument needed, no personal sentiments required, them's the hard facts of this issue.
And I'm done.